<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div><div>This was one of the more difficult issues with MinnowBoard 1. It was 32b EFI, and there were no common distros that supported it out of the box. Is there a reason you want to use 32b? I confess I can't think of reason to sacrifice the extra registers and instructions when the system has more than 1GB of memory and gobs of permanent storage.</div><div><br></div><div><div>-- </div><div>Darren Hart<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Open Source Technology Center</div><div>darren.hart@intel.com<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> Intel Corporation</div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Ferchu R <<a href="mailto:chamac2@gmail.com">chamac2@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <<a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org">elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, September 12, 2014 at 8:16<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <<a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org">elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [MinnowBoard] 64-bit vs 32-bit UEFI - What you need to know!<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div dir="ltr">I was wondering if somebody knows what distro has a 32 bit EFI compatible image.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-11 20:54 GMT-05:00 Hawley, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.hawley@intel.com" target="_blank">john.hawley@intel.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I agree, I’ve seen it a couple of times. What happens is:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>1)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Flash happens<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>2)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Flash program goes to reboot the board (gives a couple second timeout, then screen goes blank)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>3)<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sometimes it looks like it can’t call the shutdown cleanly then both D1 and D1 end up staying on<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="148679155f420fe5__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">When I’m back in the office on Monday (I’m heading to the Albuquerque Maker Faire right now to show off a bunch of MinnowBoard MAX
stuff), I’ll try the conversion and see what happens. If I can replicate the issue I’ll bug the firmware team about it and see if they can root cause, and fix that.<u></u><u></u></span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Glad you are back up and running though, I know exactly how iffy upgrading firmware can be, and it’s always frustrating when you have to reach for the external
firmware flasher. I know CircuitCo has a small board to help deal with external flashing in development, hopefully that will be out soon to help alleviate people’s fears of playing with the firmware!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">- John<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org" target="_blank">elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org" target="_blank">elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ferchu R<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:45 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MinnowBoard] 64-bit vs 32-bit UEFI - What you need to know!<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi John<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Thanks, It worked. I think the firware update should end gracefully. A black screen when flashing firmware makes anyone nervous.
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2014-09-11 20:33 GMT-05:00 Hawley, John <<a href="mailto:john.hawley@intel.com" target="_blank">john.hawley@intel.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Well getting into firmware menu is a good sign
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://elinux.org/Minnowboard:MaxBios#Change_Boot_Order" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">http://elinux.org/Minnowboard:MaxBios#Change_Boot_Order</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">You should be able to see “Boot Maintenance Manager”, with the 4<sup>th</sup> option being “Change
Boot Order”, you should be able to “<EFI Internal Shell>” (hit enter, + it to the top, hit enter) and commit the changes back to get back to the shell, and get your install going.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If that doesn’t work, let me know here and we’ll see what is going on.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">- John</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="148679155f420fe5_148677eaf5503591__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></a><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"></span><a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
[mailto:</span><a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ferchu R<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MinnowBoard] 64-bit vs 32-bit UEFI - What you need to know!</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">So I FOLLOWED the procedure to pass from 64 to 32. I think the system filled 2 lines of dots, when the screen goes black. I waited about a half hour but there was no sign of new
action, so I tried to reboot. Now the board has not EUFI Shell. But it does have setup, where the third line says it is MNW2CRB1.86C.0071.R30.1408131324. I was wondering what coused this, and how I get the board on work again?.<br><br>
Thanks<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2014-09-10 13:04 GMT-05:00 Hawley, John <<a href="mailto:john.hawley@intel.com" target="_blank">john.hawley@intel.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I think there's some value in being explicit or otherwise we'll actually<br>
cause confusion. I.E. when you download the firmware and people see<br>
32-bit vs. 64-bit firmware in the same place will they always flash the<br>
right one? Part of the problem is there is no UI to these firmware<br>
flashers, they are command line utilities.<br><span style="color:#888888"><br>
- John</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 13:18 -0400, Adam Goode wrote:<br>
> I see the zip files already contain both EFI binaries. Assuming the<br>
> firmware updaters present some firmware selection UI, the<br>
> simplification I can see here is consolidating by putting both<br>
> firmware files into the same zip file. You could go further and<br>
> combine the release and debug versions as well, but that might be<br>
> unnecessary.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Darren Hart <<a href="mailto:dvhart@linux.intel.com" target="_blank">dvhart@linux.intel.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > On 9/10/14, 8:22, "Adam Goode" <<a href="mailto:adam@spicenitz.org" target="_blank">adam@spicenitz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >>Does this mean that both files can just be put into place? If so,<br>
> >>could you update the distribution to include both and not worry about<br>
> >>what the current firmware is? It would simplify the process and<br>
> >>documentation.<br>
> ><br>
> > That strikes me as a pretty good suggestion.<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Darren<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>Adam<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Darren Hart <<a href="mailto:dvhart@linux.intel.com" target="_blank">dvhart@linux.intel.com</a>><br>
> >>wrote:<br>
> >>> On 9/10/14, 1:35, "Roel Jordans" <<a href="mailto:r.jordans@tue.nl" target="_blank">r.jordans@tue.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>><a href="http://www.elinux.org/Minnowboard:MaxBios#Switching_from_64-bit_to_32-b" target="_blank">http://www.elinux.org/Minnowboard:MaxBios#Switching_from_64-bit_to_32-b</a><br>
> >>>>>it<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> Basically you have to re-flash the firmware with a 32-bit firmware.<br>
> >>>>> There's a line in the instructions that may confuse some folks,<br>
> >>>>> specifically using a FirmwareUpdateX64.efi to flash a 32-bit firmware.<br>
> >>>>> This is because when you go to change the firmware you are running a<br>
> >>>>> 64-bit firmware, and therefore need a 64-bit EFI program to actually<br>
> >>>>>do<br>
> >>>>> the flashing.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> If you want to switch back, you'll do the opposite, use<br>
> >>>>> FirmwareUpdateIA32.efi to flash a 64-bit firmware.<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>Maybe it's possible to rename those updates (or add some renamed<br>
> >>>>updates) to something like FirmwareUpdateIA32to64 or something? That<br>
> >>>>would probably remove most of the cause for confusion here.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> That isn't accurate unfortunately. The update tool doesn't care which<br>
> >>>bit<br>
> >>> length you are flashing to, you use the same tool to flash to 32b or to<br>
> >>> 64b, what matters is what firmware you are currently running, and that<br>
> >>>is<br>
> >>> what the tool name reflects.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
> >>> Darren Hart Open Source Technology<br>
> >>>Center<br>
> >>> <a href="mailto:darren.hart@intel.com" target="_blank">darren.hart@intel.com</a> Intel<br>
> >>>Corporation<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
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