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Chris,<br>
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you can use the <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sales@circuitco.com">sales@circuitco.com</a> address. it is block mailed to a
bunch of the sales staff and one will be assigned to respond to
you...<br>
<br>
feel free to cc me...<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/12/2014 09:12 AM, Chris Benson
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dave,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry about the USB Hub Lure confusion. When I read 'USB',
my tired brain was interpreting it as 'ethernet'.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Can you point me to CircuitCo's OEM/ODM person?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM,
David Anders <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danders@circuitco.com" target="_blank">danders@circuitco.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Chris,
<div class=""><br>
<br>
<div>On 08/11/2014 06:12 PM, Chris Benson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dave,
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="">
<div>Sorry. I'll try to rephrase a couple of
those questions to clarify.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>How many NIC Lures could be used
simultaneously on a MAX?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
because the MinnowMax only has a single PCIe channel,
you would only be able to use a single NIC Lure. if you
need more ethernet interfaces, there are options
available such as Realtek parts that provide multiple
nics from a single PCIe channel...
<div class=""><br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>When you use the phrase 'USB Hub Lure', can
you confirm that you will be offering an
'Ethernet hub' rather than an 'Ethernet switch'?
(per the definitions stated on this webpage: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170"
target="_blank">http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170</a> )</div>
<div><br>
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</div>
this is a USB Hub Lure, not ethernet....<br>
<br>
the USB Hub Lure is nothing more that a standard USB
chip (Microchip USB2514) that provides 4 additional USB2
host ports...
<div class=""><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Regarding a hypothetical partner program, I
was not referring to the discussion on the
mailing list. Will it be possible for early
adopters (i.e. product creators) to gain access
to pre-production Lure hardware prior to it
being generally available through retail
distributors? That way we can start building
our own product prototypes on top of the MAX at
an earlier date.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
we have not made any plans to do so since it would
generally be cost prohibitive to provide prototypes
and/or pre-production boards. i.e. a lure that normally
would cost $35MSRP would probably cost $100 as a
pre-production due to the small quantity that are built
as part of the prototyping process.
<div class=""><br>
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>So regarding volume pricing, if I place a
volume order for 10,000 MAX units, you are
confirming you will charge me retail prices.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
MinnowBoard Max is not intended to be used directly in a
commercial/retail product and as such we expect to keep
the retail prices strictly for the general MinnowBoard
community. circuitco can offer you a "no minnowboard
logo" version of the MinnowBoard Max.
<div class=""><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Given a 'yes' on the previous question, is it
possible to contract with CircuitCo for a
separate private production run with a lower
cost structure?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
yes you can get a quote from circuitco to provide you a
provate production run of a minnowmax variant. this is
the preferred method for OEM/ODM customers. by doing
this we are able to address things such as delivery
schedules, testing concerns, and warranty/RMA handling.
this also allows to schedule out the proper allocation
of parts, schedule for production time on the assembly
machines, and allocation of employee resources for
testing and shipping.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Great about the dates! I'll look forward
to your update in ~2 weeks.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 11,
2014 at 6:51 PM, David Anders <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danders@circuitco.com"
target="_blank">danders@circuitco.com</a>></span>
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Chris,
<div><br>
<br>
<div>On 08/11/2014 05:47 PM, Chris
Benson wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Dave,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Does the NIC Lure only come
with a single <span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">PCIe-based
gigabit Realtek ethernet</span> port,
or will there be more than
one?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
currently the plan is to provide only
one nic.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>How many Lures can be used
simultaneously on a MAX?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
that is entirely dependent on what
interfaces are used and how they are
used.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Is the USB Hub Lure
switched or unswitched?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
i am sorry i do not understand your
question...
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Has CircuitCo considered
creating a 'prototyping
partner program' for early
adopters of specific Lures
(like for people on this
mailing list)?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
there are no plans to separate out the
lures discussions from the main
mailing list.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Will it be possible to
secure volume discounts on the
MAX and its Lures once
production ramps up
sufficiently?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
because of the way minnowmax pricing
is structured, there are no plans to
provide volume discounts. this is the
same with other open hardware
platforms such as the beaglebone
black...
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Recognizing that Lures are
still in prototyping right
now, could you please announce
target availability dates for
these Lures? For those of us
with significant dependencies
on the proposed Lures, even an
extremely tentative
'no-promises' date would be
better than none at all.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
i can't share any dates with you
currently, but i will be in a better
position to do so in about two weeks.<br>
<br>
Dave
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at
6:09 PM, David Anders <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danders@circuitco.com" target="_blank">danders@circuitco.com</a>></span>
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Greetings All,<br>
<br>
i'd like to share
with everyone the
proposed list of
lures that will
initially be
available for the
MinnowBoard Max.
this list is
currently just a
proposed list and
some of the
names/features may
change:<br>
<br>
<table cols="2"
border="0"
cellspacing="0">
<colgroup
width="144"></colgroup>
<colgroup
width="254"></colgroup>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"
height="19"><b>Cape
Name</b></td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"><b>Description</b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Calamari
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">Educational</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Moto
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">Dual
motor support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">MiniDisplay
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">SPI
based LCD with
Touch</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">RS-232
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">rs-232
with db-9
connector</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Generic
Proto Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">standard
prototype cap</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Power
Supply Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
wide voltage
range support
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Audio
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">new
audio cape
based on
cirrus logic</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">PWM
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">32
PWM interfaces
for LED/Servo</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">Relay
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">4
generic gpio
controlled
relays</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">CAN
Bus Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">CAN
Bus support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">RS-485
Lure</td>
<td
style="border:1px
solid
rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
RS-485
interface
support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">
ADC Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
multiple ADC
inputs</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">
SeaCat Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
mPCIE+mSATA</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
align="LEFT"
height="19">Nic
Lure</td>
<td
align="CENTER">Gigabit
ethernet lure</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
align="LEFT"
height="19">USB
Hub Lure</td>
<td
align="CENTER">4
port USB Hub</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">
Ika Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
Arduino Style
Headers</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT"
height="19">
Jetsam</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER">
single mPCIE</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
align="LEFT"
height="19">Flotsam</td>
<td
align="CENTER">single
mSATA</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
feedback and/or
suggestions are
welcome!<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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