[MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
zahra rahimkhani
zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 14 06:01:29 UTC 2018
Also, In this link told "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaBIOS"
" Most of the SeaBIOS' source code is written in C
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)>, with its build
system relying on the standard GNU toolchain
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_toolchain>.[2]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaBIOS#cite_note-lpc-seabios-2>:5–7 SeaBIOS
has been tested with various bootloaders and operating systems, including GNU
GRUB <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB>, LILO
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO_(boot_loader)>, SYSLINUX
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYSLINUX>, Microsoft Windows
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows>, Linux
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux>, FreeDOS
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDOS>, FreeBSD
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD>, NetBSD
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBSD> and OpenBSD
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD>. "
I confused about it
Could you explain ?
Thanks,
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:06 AM zahra rahimkhani <zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Also, I can get it on myboard becuse this link told
> https://seabios.org/SeaBIOS
>
> "SeaBIOS is an open source implementation of a 16bit X86 BIOS. SeaBIOS can
> run in an emulator or it can run natively on X86 hardware with the use of [
> http://www.coreboot.org/ coreboot]."
>
> But I can use just QEMU and kvm <http://www.linux-kvm.org/>on my board
> if I want to install FreeBSD , I should change its codes for FreeBSD ?
>
> Thanks ,
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:28 AM zahra rahimkhani <
> zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, I downloaded coreboot 4.0 from
>> https://www.coreboot.org/downloads.html
>>
>> I can this method for my board
>> https://www.coreboot.org/developers.html
>>
>> Thank you for your time
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:04 AM zahra rahimkhani <
>> zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, Could you explain that how use this link that you sent for to
>>> build a Legacy BIOS ?
>>> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/Tasks
>>>
>>> Thanks ,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:34 AM zahra rahimkhani <
>>> zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for your guides.
>>>>
>>>> I did not use FreeBSD when I tested it , I removed the media (SD
>>>> card, disk drive, etc) containing the OS. but I cannot boot to shell
>>>> and just see this message
>>>> ">>>>Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL> to enter setup page(5
>>>> Sec)....."
>>>> Now I should SPI programmer or is other solution?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:48 PM Krau, Michael P <
>>>> michael.p.krau at intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, this sounds like we have two problems:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Please note: at the end of point 2 I have a suggestion of something
>>>>> to try to see if we can get you booting to the shell)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) None of the MinnowBoard MAX official release contain “Legacy
>>>>> BIOS” (Or as UEFI (CSM) refers to this functionality “Compatibility Support
>>>>> Module”).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the term BIOS has been overloaded over time, and some
>>>>> have use the term “BIOS” as a catch all for the firmware image (whether it
>>>>> contains a “Legacy BIOS” component or not).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While the Open Source code (per your link below) may include some of
>>>>> the CSM support it is not complete, as it would require the actual “Legacy
>>>>> BIOS” component (which is loaded in memory at address 0F0000h) to be
>>>>> complete, and Tianocore.org does not include those modules. Also, the
>>>>> builds as provided on TInaocore.org do not include linkages to those parts
>>>>> of the CSM that are available in the code repository.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Per the Tianocore.org Wiki (
>>>>> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/Tasks), the CSM
>>>>> is listed as a “partially complete” or “deferred” project. It mentions
>>>>> SeaBIOS (a GPL licensed Legacy BIOS: http://www.coreboot.org/SeaBIOS)
>>>>> as a possibility, but it would require some effort to integrate into the
>>>>> overall firmware image. The project was deprioritized, as UEFI support has
>>>>> been more or less mainstreamed in most current OS’s.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I noted in your messages below is that version numbering is
>>>>> confused or confusing. The Firmware versions range from 0.91 (on website –
>>>>> though there were versions released numbering in the 0.7x range long, long
>>>>> ago) to 0.98 (most recent release). While your FreeBSD version number is
>>>>> of the form 9.2. In fact I notice that some references to the firmware
>>>>> version numbers have begun to match the FreeBSD form (9.x), rather than the
>>>>> firmware version form (0.9x).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have the actual quote where it is stated that firmware version
>>>>> 0.91 contains Legacy BIOS support or a complete CSM? I am concerned
>>>>> specifically where and how this was conveyed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) The firmware image (version 0.91) on your platform in not
>>>>> booting after being installed. You are not getting to shell much less
>>>>> booting an OS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the more immediate and telling issue, as it makes it hard for
>>>>> you to do much with our board as it is, and until you can at least boot to
>>>>> shell on that board your progress is on hold.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, first I have to ask:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you use the binary image provided on the website (
>>>>> https://firmware.intel.com/projects/minnowboard-max)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When you did the firmware update from 0.77 to 0.91, did the process
>>>>> flow and complete per the screen shots provided on the web page (
>>>>> https://minnowboard.org/tutorials/updating-the-firmware)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The provided firmware image is a known good image, and was thoroughly
>>>>> tested before it was posted on the webpage. If the provided binary was
>>>>> used and the update process did not error, fail, or get interrupted (i.e.
>>>>> reboot or power cycle in the middle of the process), the system should at
>>>>> least be able to boot directly to shell.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the sticky part, as once a firmware image is on a platform
>>>>> that cannot at least boot to shell, the only option of getting a new (and
>>>>> working firmware image) on the affected platform is to use and SPI
>>>>> programmer and directly load the image into the SPI flash part. As stated
>>>>> on the “Updating the Firmware” webpage: “NOTE: If this process fails for
>>>>> some reason like power interruption, and you are unable to flash using this
>>>>> process, your remedy is to use the spi flash tool. See the Updating
>>>>> Firmware via SPI Flash Programmer tutorial.”
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting to the Shell:
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I have a suggestion before going to the SPI programming
>>>>> option. It is possible that the UEFI firmware has been loaded correctly on
>>>>> your board, but in the boot process has tried to launch the FreeBSD
>>>>> bootloader, then has crashed before it could even put a message on the
>>>>> screen. Actually, if the FreeBSD loader is expecting a legacy BIOS it
>>>>> would not know how to put a message on the screen in a UEFI environment, so
>>>>> there would be no message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion, temporarily remove the media (SD card, disk drive, etc)
>>>>> containing the OS from your board, and try to boot it with firmware only.
>>>>> This will force the firmware to boot to shell (if possible). If it can
>>>>> boot to shell, then the firmware image is OK, and it was in the handoff (or
>>>>> after) that the crash occurred. If it cannot boot to shell, then we may
>>>>> get some more data in screen output from the process to help figure out how
>>>>> we can get to shell without resorting to the SPI flash programmer option.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know how it works out either way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Krau
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *While I am an Intel employee, I do not represent Intel and am not
>>>>> authorized to speak for Intel. *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
>>>>> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] *On Behalf Of *zahra
>>>>> rahimkhani
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:41 AM
>>>>> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
>>>>> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if it does not BIOS, I can compile firmware based on this link
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your time
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:59 PM zahra rahimkhani <
>>>>> zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for this message.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How did you perform the upgrade from 0.77 to 0.91?
>>>>>
>>>>> I used this link for upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>> https://minnowboard.org/tutorials/updating-the-firmware
>>>>>
>>>>> I typed that commands on shell .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.Please explain the “crash” you see after the firmware boot
>>>>> message? Is this FreeBSD crashing after it tries to boot, or a different
>>>>> error?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it is without FreeBSD, It does not make Shell. I did not see this
>>>>> message: EFI shell version.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Can you use F2/DEL to enter the firmware setup without a
>>>>> crash/hang?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, when I see this message " Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL>
>>>>> to enter setup page(5 Sec)...."
>>>>>
>>>>> My keyboard does not work and I did not see shell that type new
>>>>> commands
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. The MinnowBoard Max/Turbot firmware is UEFI only, with no
>>>>> legacy BIOS support. Newer versions of FreeBSD have UEFI support.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need FreeBSD 9.2 It does not UEFI , In the forums, I saw in new
>>>>> versions, it has BIOS that in this link for 9.1 it told that it has BIOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://firmware.intel.com/projects/minnowboard-max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:19 PM Richardson, Brian <
>>>>> brian.richardson at intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How did you perform the upgrade from 0.77 to 0.91?
>>>>> 2. Please explain the “crash” you see after the firmware boot
>>>>> message? Is this FreeBSD crashing after it tries to boot, or a different
>>>>> error?
>>>>> 3. Can you use F2/DEL to enter the firmware setup without a
>>>>> crash/hang?
>>>>> 4. The MinnowBoard Max/Turbot firmware is UEFI only, with no
>>>>> legacy BIOS support. Newer versions of FreeBSD have UEFI support.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks … br
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Software
>>>>>
>>>>> brian.richardson at intel.com -- @intel_brian (Twitter & WeChat)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/meet-the-developers/evangelists/team/brian-richardson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard <
>>>>> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> *On Behalf Of *zahra
>>>>> rahimkhani
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:05 AM
>>>>> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
>>>>> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* [MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded firmware of MinnowBoard MAX 0.91 64-Bit because I
>>>>> think it have BIOS and I can use freebsd 9.2 that do not support UEFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> I put it on my chip but it show this message .
>>>>>
>>>>> ">>>>Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL> to enter setup page(5
>>>>> Sec)....."
>>>>>
>>>>> and crashed . I can not type anything in this stage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be grateful if you let me know how solve it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> My board had version 0.77 before.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
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