[MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
zahra rahimkhani
zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 14 04:04:19 UTC 2018
Thank you for your guides.
I did not use FreeBSD when I tested it , I removed the media (SD card,
disk drive, etc) containing the OS. but I cannot boot to shell and just
see this message
">>>>Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL> to enter setup page(5 Sec)....."
Now I should SPI programmer or is other solution?
Thanks,
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:48 PM Krau, Michael P <michael.p.krau at intel.com>
wrote:
> Ok, this sounds like we have two problems:
>
> (Please note: at the end of point 2 I have a suggestion of something to
> try to see if we can get you booting to the shell)
>
>
>
> 1) None of the MinnowBoard MAX official release contain “Legacy
> BIOS” (Or as UEFI (CSM) refers to this functionality “Compatibility Support
> Module”).
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, the term BIOS has been overloaded over time, and some have
> use the term “BIOS” as a catch all for the firmware image (whether it
> contains a “Legacy BIOS” component or not).
>
>
>
> While the Open Source code (per your link below) may include some of the
> CSM support it is not complete, as it would require the actual “Legacy
> BIOS” component (which is loaded in memory at address 0F0000h) to be
> complete, and Tianocore.org does not include those modules. Also, the
> builds as provided on TInaocore.org do not include linkages to those parts
> of the CSM that are available in the code repository.
>
>
>
> Per the Tianocore.org Wiki (
> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/Tasks), the CSM is
> listed as a “partially complete” or “deferred” project. It mentions
> SeaBIOS (a GPL licensed Legacy BIOS: http://www.coreboot.org/SeaBIOS) as
> a possibility, but it would require some effort to integrate into the
> overall firmware image. The project was deprioritized, as UEFI support has
> been more or less mainstreamed in most current OS’s.
>
>
>
> One thing I noted in your messages below is that version numbering is
> confused or confusing. The Firmware versions range from 0.91 (on website –
> though there were versions released numbering in the 0.7x range long, long
> ago) to 0.98 (most recent release). While your FreeBSD version number is
> of the form 9.2. In fact I notice that some references to the firmware
> version numbers have begun to match the FreeBSD form (9.x), rather than the
> firmware version form (0.9x).
>
>
>
> Do you have the actual quote where it is stated that firmware version 0.91
> contains Legacy BIOS support or a complete CSM? I am concerned
> specifically where and how this was conveyed.
>
>
>
> 2) The firmware image (version 0.91) on your platform in not booting
> after being installed. You are not getting to shell much less booting an
> OS.
>
>
>
> This is the more immediate and telling issue, as it makes it hard for you
> to do much with our board as it is, and until you can at least boot to
> shell on that board your progress is on hold.
>
>
>
> Now, first I have to ask:
>
> Did you use the binary image provided on the website (
> https://firmware.intel.com/projects/minnowboard-max)?
>
>
>
> When you did the firmware update from 0.77 to 0.91, did the process flow
> and complete per the screen shots provided on the web page (
> https://minnowboard.org/tutorials/updating-the-firmware)?
>
>
>
> The provided firmware image is a known good image, and was thoroughly
> tested before it was posted on the webpage. If the provided binary was
> used and the update process did not error, fail, or get interrupted (i.e.
> reboot or power cycle in the middle of the process), the system should at
> least be able to boot directly to shell.
>
>
>
> This is the sticky part, as once a firmware image is on a platform that
> cannot at least boot to shell, the only option of getting a new (and
> working firmware image) on the affected platform is to use and SPI
> programmer and directly load the image into the SPI flash part. As stated
> on the “Updating the Firmware” webpage: “NOTE: If this process fails for
> some reason like power interruption, and you are unable to flash using this
> process, your remedy is to use the spi flash tool. See the Updating
> Firmware via SPI Flash Programmer tutorial.”
>
>
>
> Getting to the Shell:
>
> However, I have a suggestion before going to the SPI programming option.
> It is possible that the UEFI firmware has been loaded correctly on your
> board, but in the boot process has tried to launch the FreeBSD bootloader,
> then has crashed before it could even put a message on the screen.
> Actually, if the FreeBSD loader is expecting a legacy BIOS it would not
> know how to put a message on the screen in a UEFI environment, so there
> would be no message.
>
>
>
> My suggestion, temporarily remove the media (SD card, disk drive, etc)
> containing the OS from your board, and try to boot it with firmware only.
> This will force the firmware to boot to shell (if possible). If it can
> boot to shell, then the firmware image is OK, and it was in the handoff (or
> after) that the crash occurred. If it cannot boot to shell, then we may
> get some more data in screen output from the process to help figure out how
> we can get to shell without resorting to the SPI flash programmer option.
>
>
>
> Please let us know how it works out either way.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Krau
>
>
>
> *While I am an Intel employee, I do not represent Intel and am not
> authorized to speak for Intel. *
>
>
>
> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] *On Behalf Of *zahra
> rahimkhani
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:41 AM
> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, if it does not BIOS, I can compile firmware based on this link
>
> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/EDK-II?
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your time
>
> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:59 PM zahra rahimkhani <
> zrahimkhani2014 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for this message.
>
>
>
> 1. How did you perform the upgrade from 0.77 to 0.91?
>
> I used this link for upgrade
>
> https://minnowboard.org/tutorials/updating-the-firmware
>
> I typed that commands on shell .
>
>
>
> 2.Please explain the “crash” you see after the firmware boot
> message? Is this FreeBSD crashing after it tries to boot, or a different
> error?
>
> No, it is without FreeBSD, It does not make Shell. I did not see this
> message: EFI shell version.....
>
>
>
> 3. Can you use F2/DEL to enter the firmware setup without a
> crash/hang?
>
> No, when I see this message " Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL> to
> enter setup page(5 Sec)...."
>
> My keyboard does not work and I did not see shell that type new commands
>
>
>
> 4. The MinnowBoard Max/Turbot firmware is UEFI only, with no
> legacy BIOS support. Newer versions of FreeBSD have UEFI support.
>
> I need FreeBSD 9.2 It does not UEFI , In the forums, I saw in new
> versions, it has BIOS that in this link for 9.1 it told that it has BIOS.
>
> https://firmware.intel.com/projects/minnowboard-max
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 8:19 PM Richardson, Brian <
> brian.richardson at intel.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1. How did you perform the upgrade from 0.77 to 0.91?
> 2. Please explain the “crash” you see after the firmware boot message?
> Is this FreeBSD crashing after it tries to boot, or a different error?
> 3. Can you use F2/DEL to enter the firmware setup without a crash/hang?
> 4. The MinnowBoard Max/Turbot firmware is UEFI only, with no legacy
> BIOS support. Newer versions of FreeBSD have UEFI support.
>
>
>
> Thanks … br
>
> ---
>
> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Software
>
> brian.richardson at intel.com -- @intel_brian (Twitter & WeChat)
>
>
> https://software.intel.com/en-us/meet-the-developers/evangelists/team/brian-richardson
>
>
>
> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard <elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> *On
> Behalf Of *zahra rahimkhani
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:05 AM
> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> *Subject:* [MinnowBoard] firmware with Bios for minnowboard max
>
>
>
> Dear Friends
>
>
>
> I downloaded firmware of MinnowBoard MAX 0.91 64-Bit because I think
> it have BIOS and I can use freebsd 9.2 that do not support UEFI.
>
> I put it on my chip but it show this message .
>
> ">>>>Start boot option, Press <F2> or <DEL> to enter setup page(5
> Sec)....."
>
> and crashed . I can not type anything in this stage.
>
>
>
> I would be grateful if you let me know how solve it ?
>
> My board had version 0.77 before.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
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