[MinnowBoard] Schematics for Minnowboard 3 (prelim)?

Sun May 7 23:16:51 UTC 2017

I don't know about schematics yet, maybe will be great to having those, but
already we can see what I can say is a Leaked MinnowBoard 3 image WOOHOO!!!
[1] from the Intel Optane Memory Technology web page [2] that came at first
result on a google image search with "Intel Optane NUC Board" terms [3].

If it's this new Design of the MinnowBoard 3, scheduled to ship in Fall
2017, wich is based on the Intel® Atom™ Processor E3900 Series processor
(aka Apollo Lake) and having detailed the leaked image would be awesome to
have one of these boards opensourced with that capabilities and components
(I don't know if the Apollo Lake chipset support intel Optane Memory but I
dubt it [4]).

We couldn't do nothing more than wait until this fall to have 5 of these
fishy beasts for prototyping with a Thunderbolt 2/3 HDK developing a
DisplaPort Technology over mDP or USB-C ports for Light Field Displays
using MST/MSO, PSR, and DSC [5]. Maybe we will to stick with our initial
Hardware Reference Platform with the Udoo X86, wich is Braswell based [6]
because we can't afford yet a developing effort around 5 of these "Lions"
[7] wich are the ideal highend platform.

Maybe next quarter Intel will be releasing a Kaby Lake version NUC Board
like one of these [8] [9] that have 2xmDP++/eDP or double/single
Thunderbolt 3 port + eDP would be great! Developing over the Intel Joule
570x Developer Kit [10] and MinnowBoard Turbot since last year has been a
painful experience so far with the limited resources and a NOT a full Open
Source Hardware solution, not like the Udoo x86 or MInnowBoard 3 which are
OSHW certified!

Best Regards

Maximino Reyes
CEO, CTO
Transversal Dimensions .LLC

[1]: https://goo.gl/images/QJIt3G
[2]:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/optane-memory.html
[3]:
https://www.google.co.ve/search?q=intel+optane+nuc+board&client=firefox-b-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4uPnR2N7TAhWFRSYKHQBeCxkQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=646#imgrc=pewmqpamfjxq3M
:
[4]:
http://www.techspot.com/news/68757-intel-optane-memory-may-not-compatible-kaby-lake.html
[5]:
https://hackaday.io/project/19679-black-mirror-project-a-mr-metaverse-portal
[6]:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/udoo/udoo-x86-the-most-powerful-maker-board-ever/description
[7]: https://versalogic.com/Products/ds.asp?productid=282
[8]:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/boards/nuc5i3mybe.html
[9]:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/boards/nuc5i5mybe.html
[10]: http://ark.intel.com/products/96414/Intel-Joule-570x-Developer-Kit

2017-05-05 17:44 GMT-04:00 Ottaway, Brian R <brian.r.ottaway at intel.com>:

> I will update the Github item when the "hidden" URL is posted. Definitely
> be end of May.
>
> If you've already seen Oxbow/Leaf Hills there isn't another platform that
> I'm aware, especially if you want more than coreboot.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Bucas
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:58 AM
> To: 'MinnowBoard Community Email List' <elinux-minnowboard at lists.
> elinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Schematics for Minnowboard 3 (prelim)?
>
> Thanks for the fast response Brian - MUCH appreciated.
>
> I was actually already subscribed to the GitHub MB3 issues.
>
> How will I/we know when such a new "hidden" URL will be available!?
> Curious...
> Any idea (roughly) when that will be (eg: by end of May?). Preview is good
> enough for us to start looking at the details for Apollo Lake (for a new
> project we are working on).
>
> Quick new question:
> Are there any other Apollo Lake (E3900) based Reference designs (with
> Schematics) that have Intel Supported/Created firmware UEFI source code
> that one can build/modify (like MB3)?
>
> We have looked at the Oxbow Hill Design (& played with an actual board for
> a
> while) but the firmware/BIOS seems much tougher to build (if even
> possible) than the MB (maybe because we have been spoilt by MB firmware and
> have so much more experience with it..!)....
>
> Regards
>
> Gerard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of
> Ottaway, Brian R
> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:03 PM
> To: MinnowBoard Community Email List <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Schematics for Minnowboard 3 (prelim)?
>
> A few answers to one question:
>
> 1) Schematics are not yet publicly available for MinnowBoard 3 (MB3).
> After the board gets thru EMI/EMC (& safety) pre-scans I think we could get
> a set of schematics and design files posted to Github https://github.com/
> MinnowBoard-org/design-files  and just label them as pre-cert...see the
> placeholder folder. ADI would then later post production cert files.
>
> 2) There is no other platform publicly available to test the MB3 firmware.
> To reach market shelves, MB3 first needs the E3940 to release. We created
> a Github issue for MB3 updates/changes that you could subscribe to:
> https://github.com/MinnowBoard-org/bugs-and-help/issues/21
>
> 3) We can get a "hidden" URL up to the website with MB3 overview for the
> list audience that can discern between "preview" and "launch". Stay tuned.
>
> 4) In parallel we'll keep supporting Turbot variants, including the
> dual-ethernet versions, and the already sold out quad-core (next batch in
> process).
>
>  Feedback/input always desired.
>
> -brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Gerard
> Bucas
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 6:24 AM
> To: MinnowBoard Community Email List <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> Subject: [MinnowBoard] Schematics for Minnowboard 3 (prelim)?
>
> Are there any preliminary schematics available for the new Apollo Lake
> based
> (E3900) MinnowBoard 3?
>
> If yes - how does one get access to it?
>
> If no - is there any hardware platform available on which one could test
> the latest MinnowBoard 3 firmware (rel 0.63)?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerard Bucas
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