[MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX (or turbot)?

Wed May 4 16:37:13 UTC 2016

Hi B-O

Interesting...

Which BIOS do you use to boot MSDOS?

Curious....

Gerard

> On May 4, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gerard,
> 
> Please let me know how you are doing with this and also the MSDOS boot.
> 
> For your info, I use MSDOS a lot on Minnowboard Max/Turbot booting from SD card or USB thumb drive. It’s the best way to test the BIOS and the firmware.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> B-O
> 
>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 17:25 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net>:
>> 
>> Hi B-O,
>> 
>> Thanks for this feedback/tip. Will make sure we check this out as well.
>> 
>> Much appreciated.
>> 
>> Gerard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Berth-Olof Bergman [mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: gerard.b at tekmagic.net; MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX
>> (or turbot)?
>> 
>> Hi Gerard,
>> 
>> In case you have problem with a second NIC in the PCI expansion bus using
>> the silver jaw lure, the problem is the violation of PCI timing as the
>> PLTRST# signal is not used to reset the NIC. They use the PWROK signal to
>> reset the NIC and on a reboot the PWROK remains high. In the case of full
>> reset from PCI reset register the PWROK gets initial low and then high, but
>> violates the PCI bus reset protocol as the RESET# signal should remain low
>> for at least 100 mS after power (PWROK) is stable.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> B-O
>> Winzent Technologies
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 11:54 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> That is a really good question! :)
>>> 
>>> We have a couple of PCB designs which one could consider as 
>>> MinnowBoard MAX "derivatives". On one of the designs (PCB) we have a 
>>> serious problem with reliable access to the Realtek 8111 NiC, even 
>>> though "on paper" (schematics,
>>> etc) the two PCB's have the same NiC designs (so in one design 
>>> everything on the PCB works perfectly while on the other there seems 
>>> to be some PCI bus access issues to the NiC). We have tried different 
>>> drivers and other OS level debugging (mainly linux based) but can't 
>>> seem to isolate the problem (sometimes lspci will list the Realtek NiC 
>>> after a reboot and sometimes not and when it does get detected/listed 
>>> by lspci, the whole lspci entry is occasionally corrupted and shows FF 
>>> FF, etc). Obviously sounds/smells/looks like a PCI bus problem 
>>> (differential pair impedance, component differences, PCB layout 
>>> differences, etc..) but we can't seem to isolate it. So we would like 
>>> to do some "lower level" testing/checking of PCI enumeration and maybe 
>>> other PCI debugging tools. One of the tools we wanted to play with runs on
>> MS-DOS.
>>> 
>>> However, someone just pointed me at UEFI app:
>>> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip
>>> which should actually be able to run as an EFI app on our normal 
>>> minnow-derived firmware/BIOS. So need to check that out as well.
>>> 
>>> If you have any other ideas or pointers please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> 
>>> Gerard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
>>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Richardson, Brian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:45 PM
>>> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion 
>>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard 
>>> MAX (or turbot)?
>>> 
>>> What is the low-level debugging requirement? Does it need to be run in 
>>> DOS or just at a level below the OS?
>>> 
>>> Thanks ... br
>>> ---
>>> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Software 
>>> brian.richardson at intel.com -- 
>>> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
>>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Gerard Bucas
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:43 PM
>>> To: 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion'
>>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
>>> Subject: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX 
>>> (or turbot)?
>>> 
>>> Resent with better subject line....
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how one could bot MS-DOS on a MBM/T?
>>> 
>>> Would like to do this for some low-level debugging we need to do. 
>>> 
>>> I assume it needs a "legacy BIOS" but from what I read the winzent 
>>> legacy BIOS (which is due soon) is not yet available?
>>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Gerard
>>> 
>>> 
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