[MinnowBoard] OpenWRT Lure (Was: Re: mSATA Lure (aka Flotsam Lure) )

[Hawley, John]

I think the "openwrt" lure is not a bad idea, but I question how expensive it's going to be (and want people to keep this in mind).  It looks like you can pick up a reasonably decent 802.11ac device with mainline support for openwrt for ~$100 now (in fact there's only one mainline device that supports 802.11ac if I'm looking correctly).  Keeping in mind that to even get started we are already at ~$100 just for the MAX.  The MAX would clearly be SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than most routers, but is that enough to justify the cost?

I know there's been other talk of lures to include similar things:

-          Single AND Dual port gig-e

-          Seacat already has mSATA and mPCI-e

So what we are really suggesting here is adding a pci-e bridge, daisy chaining a dual-port gig-e chip off one lane and routing another leg to a mPCI-E slot so people can add a wifi card.  And taking one of the gig-e ports and breaking it out to a switch (one that I'd assume is vlan capable).  Dave Anders is right, that this won't fit in the same form factor as the MAX, and will likely be fairly large (overall), and pci-e bridge chips are rather expensive chips.

If there's interest, I'm all for pushing forward, but I want to try and get a real feeling for how interesting this is to people.


-          John

From: elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Darren Hart
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:35 AM
To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] mSATA Lure (aka Flotsam Lure)

With respect to the integrated switch, I would recommend avoiding that and leaving them as discrete Ethernet interfaces. You can always bridge them in software, making the design much more flexible. This is how the Ubiquiti Edge Router Lite is setup and I find it very nice to work with.

Unless you meant 2 distinct interfaces AND a built-in switch, in which case sure - although I think it might get cost/size prohibitive rather quickly.

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Darren Hart                                                                       Open Source Technology Center
darren.hart at intel.com<mailto:darren.hart at intel.com>                                                              Intel Corporation

From: Michael Jarvis <mjarvis.tx.08 at gmail.com<mailto:mjarvis.tx.08 at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org<mailto:elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>
Date: Friday, August 29, 2014 at 11:54
To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org<mailto:elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>
Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] mSATA Lure (aka Flotsam Lure)

OpenWRT is definitely an application I'm interested in for the Minnowboard Max, so I'm chiming in on the lure page.

I could see even different levels of OpenWRT lure, with a simple dual gigabit ethernet NICs at the low end, and perhaps a high-end lure with an integrated switch, wireless NIC, etc.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM, David Anders <danders at circuitco.com<mailto:danders at circuitco.com>> wrote:

On 08/29/2014 11:33 AM, selsinork at gmail.com<mailto:selsinork at gmail.com> wrote:
those are very much from the embedded world. Then put something like
https://openwrt.org/  on it.

hehe, very different definitions of embedded, hehe

when we did the design for Max this type of application wasn't really a target, but it is certainly flexible enough to support this use case. we'd just need to get the right combination of features on a lure with the right price and size...

i'd suggest for anyone interested in this type of Lure, that they provide feed back over on the elinux wiki:

http://www.elinux.org/OpenWRT_Lure

Dave


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