[MinnowBoard] Lure Plans
David Anders
danders at circuitco.com
Tue Aug 12 14:59:27 UTC 2014
Chris,
you can use the sales at circuitco.com address. it is block mailed to a
bunch of the sales staff and one will be assigned to respond to you...
feel free to cc me...
Dave
On 08/12/2014 09:12 AM, Chris Benson wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Sorry about the USB Hub Lure confusion. When I read 'USB', my tired
> brain was interpreting it as 'ethernet'.
>
> Can you point me to CircuitCo's OEM/ODM person?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, David Anders <danders at circuitco.com
> <mailto:danders at circuitco.com>> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
>
> On 08/11/2014 06:12 PM, Chris Benson wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> Sorry. I'll try to rephrase a couple of those questions to clarify.
>>
>> How many NIC Lures could be used simultaneously on a MAX?
>>
>
> because the MinnowMax only has a single PCIe channel, you would
> only be able to use a single NIC Lure. if you need more ethernet
> interfaces, there are options available such as Realtek parts that
> provide multiple nics from a single PCIe channel...
>
>
>> When you use the phrase 'USB Hub Lure', can you confirm that you
>> will be offering an 'Ethernet hub' rather than an 'Ethernet
>> switch'? (per the definitions stated on this webpage:
>> http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170 )
>>
>
> this is a USB Hub Lure, not ethernet....
>
> the USB Hub Lure is nothing more that a standard USB chip
> (Microchip USB2514) that provides 4 additional USB2 host ports...
>
>
>> Regarding a hypothetical partner program, I was not referring to
>> the discussion on the mailing list. Will it be possible for
>> early adopters (i.e. product creators) to gain access to
>> pre-production Lure hardware prior to it being generally
>> available through retail distributors? That way we can start
>> building our own product prototypes on top of the MAX at an
>> earlier date.
>>
>
> we have not made any plans to do so since it would generally be
> cost prohibitive to provide prototypes and/or pre-production
> boards. i.e. a lure that normally would cost $35MSRP would
> probably cost $100 as a pre-production due to the small quantity
> that are built as part of the prototyping process.
>
>
>
>> So regarding volume pricing, if I place a volume order for 10,000
>> MAX units, you are confirming you will charge me retail prices.
>
> MinnowBoard Max is not intended to be used directly in a
> commercial/retail product and as such we expect to keep the retail
> prices strictly for the general MinnowBoard community. circuitco
> can offer you a "no minnowboard logo" version of the MinnowBoard Max.
>
>
>>
>> Given a 'yes' on the previous question, is it possible to
>> contract with CircuitCo for a separate private production run
>> with a lower cost structure?
>>
>
> yes you can get a quote from circuitco to provide you a provate
> production run of a minnowmax variant. this is the preferred
> method for OEM/ODM customers. by doing this we are able to address
> things such as delivery schedules, testing concerns, and
> warranty/RMA handling. this also allows to schedule out the proper
> allocation of parts, schedule for production time on the assembly
> machines, and allocation of employee resources for testing and
> shipping.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>> Great about the dates! I'll look forward to your update in ~2 weeks.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM, David Anders
>> <danders at circuitco.com <mailto:danders at circuitco.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>> On 08/11/2014 05:47 PM, Chris Benson wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Does the NIC Lure only come with a single PCIe-based gigabit
>>> Realtek ethernet port, or will there be more than one?
>>>
>>
>> currently the plan is to provide only one nic.
>>
>>
>>> How many Lures can be used simultaneously on a MAX?
>>>
>> that is entirely dependent on what interfaces are used and
>> how they are used.
>>
>>
>>> Is the USB Hub Lure switched or unswitched?
>>>
>>
>> i am sorry i do not understand your question...
>>
>>
>>> Has CircuitCo considered creating a 'prototyping partner
>>> program' for early adopters of specific Lures (like for
>>> people on this mailing list)?
>>>
>>
>> there are no plans to separate out the lures discussions from
>> the main mailing list.
>>
>>
>>> Will it be possible to secure volume discounts on the MAX
>>> and its Lures once production ramps up sufficiently?
>>>
>>
>> because of the way minnowmax pricing is structured, there are
>> no plans to provide volume discounts. this is the same with
>> other open hardware platforms such as the beaglebone black...
>>
>>
>>> Recognizing that Lures are still in prototyping right now,
>>> could you please announce target availability dates for
>>> these Lures? For those of us with significant dependencies
>>> on the proposed Lures, even an extremely tentative
>>> 'no-promises' date would be better than none at all.
>>>
>>
>> i can't share any dates with you currently, but i will be in
>> a better position to do so in about two weeks.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:09 PM, David Anders
>>> <danders at circuitco.com <mailto:danders at circuitco.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings All,
>>>
>>> i'd like to share with everyone the proposed list of
>>> lures that will initially be available for the
>>> MinnowBoard Max. this list is currently just a proposed
>>> list and some of the names/features may change:
>>>
>>> *Cape Name* *Description*
>>> Calamari Lure Educational
>>> Moto Lure Dual motor support
>>> MiniDisplay Lure SPI based LCD with Touch
>>> RS-232 Lure rs-232 with db-9 connector
>>> Generic Proto Lure standard prototype cap
>>> Power Supply Lure wide voltage range support
>>> Audio Lure new audio cape based on cirrus logic
>>> PWM Lure 32 PWM interfaces for LED/Servo
>>> Relay Lure 4 generic gpio controlled relays
>>> CAN Bus Lure CAN Bus support
>>> RS-485 Lure RS-485 interface support
>>> ADC Lure multiple ADC inputs
>>> SeaCat Lure mPCIE+mSATA
>>> Nic Lure Gigabit ethernet lure
>>> USB Hub Lure 4 port USB Hub
>>> Ika Lure Arduino Style Headers
>>> Jetsam single mPCIE
>>> Flotsam single mSATA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> feedback and/or suggestions are welcome!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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