[MinnowBoard] Lure Plans

Tue Aug 12 14:12:50 UTC 2014

Dave,

Sorry about the USB Hub Lure confusion.  When I read 'USB', my tired brain
was interpreting it as 'ethernet'.

Can you point me to CircuitCo's OEM/ODM person?

Thanks,
Chris

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, David Anders <danders at circuitco.com> wrote:

>  Chris,
>
>
> On 08/11/2014 06:12 PM, Chris Benson wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
>  Sorry.  I'll try to rephrase a couple of those questions to clarify.
>
>  How many NIC Lures could be used simultaneously on a MAX?
>
>
> because the MinnowMax only has a single PCIe channel, you would only be
> able to use a single NIC Lure. if you need more ethernet interfaces, there
> are options available such as Realtek parts that provide multiple nics from
> a single PCIe channel...
>
>
>  When you use the phrase 'USB Hub Lure', can you confirm that you will be
> offering an 'Ethernet hub' rather than an 'Ethernet switch'? (per the
> definitions stated on this webpage:
> http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170 )
>
>
> this is a USB Hub Lure, not ethernet....
>
> the USB Hub Lure is nothing more that a standard USB chip (Microchip
> USB2514) that provides 4 additional USB2 host ports...
>
>
>  Regarding a hypothetical partner program, I was not referring to the
> discussion on the mailing list.  Will it be possible for early adopters
> (i.e. product creators) to gain access to pre-production Lure hardware
> prior to it being generally available through retail distributors?  That
> way we can start building our own product prototypes on top of the MAX at
> an earlier date.
>
>
> we have not made any plans to do so since it would generally be cost
> prohibitive to provide prototypes and/or pre-production boards. i.e. a lure
> that normally would cost $35MSRP would probably cost $100 as a
> pre-production due to the small quantity that are built as part of the
> prototyping process.
>
>
>
>  So regarding volume pricing, if I place a volume order for 10,000 MAX
> units, you are confirming you will charge me retail prices.
>
>
> MinnowBoard Max is not intended to be used directly in a commercial/retail
> product and as such we expect to keep the retail prices strictly for the
> general MinnowBoard community. circuitco can offer you a "no minnowboard
> logo" version of the MinnowBoard Max.
>
>
>
>  Given a 'yes' on the previous question, is it possible to contract with
> CircuitCo for a separate private production run with a lower cost structure?
>
>
> yes you can get a quote from circuitco to provide you a provate production
> run of a minnowmax variant. this is the preferred method for OEM/ODM
> customers. by doing this we are able to address things such as delivery
> schedules, testing concerns, and warranty/RMA handling. this also allows to
> schedule out the proper allocation of parts, schedule for production time
> on the assembly machines, and allocation of employee resources for testing
> and shipping.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>  Great about the dates!  I'll look forward to your update in ~2 weeks.
>
>  Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM, David Anders <danders at circuitco.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Chris,
>>
>>
>> On 08/11/2014 05:47 PM, Chris Benson wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>>  Does the NIC Lure only come with a single PCIe-based gigabit Realtek
>> ethernet port, or will there be more than one?
>>
>>
>>  currently the plan is to provide only one nic.
>>
>>
>>  How many Lures can be used simultaneously on a MAX?
>>
>>   that is entirely dependent on what interfaces are used and how they
>> are used.
>>
>>
>>  Is the USB Hub Lure switched or unswitched?
>>
>>
>>  i am sorry i do not understand your question...
>>
>>
>>  Has CircuitCo considered creating a 'prototyping partner program' for
>> early adopters of specific Lures (like for people on this mailing list)?
>>
>>
>>  there are no plans to separate out the lures discussions from the main
>> mailing list.
>>
>>
>>  Will it be possible to secure volume discounts on the MAX and its Lures
>> once production ramps up sufficiently?
>>
>>
>>  because of the way minnowmax pricing is structured, there are no plans
>> to provide volume discounts. this is the same with other open hardware
>> platforms such as the beaglebone black...
>>
>>
>>  Recognizing that Lures are still in prototyping right now, could you
>> please announce target availability dates for these Lures?  For those of us
>> with significant dependencies on the proposed Lures, even an extremely
>> tentative 'no-promises' date would be better than none at all.
>>
>>
>>  i can't share any dates with you currently, but i will be in a better
>> position to do so in about two weeks.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:09 PM, David Anders <danders at circuitco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Greetings All,
>>>
>>> i'd like to share with everyone the proposed list of lures that will
>>> initially be available for the MinnowBoard Max. this list is currently just
>>> a proposed list and some of the names/features may change:
>>>
>>>    *Cape Name* *Description*  Calamari Lure Educational  Moto Lure Dual
>>> motor support  MiniDisplay Lure SPI based LCD with Touch  RS-232 Lure rs-232
>>> with db-9 connector  Generic Proto Lure standard prototype cap  Power
>>> Supply Lure wide voltage range support  Audio Lure new audio cape based
>>> on cirrus logic  PWM Lure 32 PWM interfaces for LED/Servo  Relay Lure 4
>>> generic gpio controlled relays  CAN Bus Lure CAN Bus support  RS-485
>>> Lure RS-485 interface support  ADC Lure multiple ADC inputs  SeaCat Lure
>>> mPCIE+mSATA  Nic Lure Gigabit ethernet lure  USB Hub Lure 4 port USB Hub  Ika
>>> Lure Arduino Style Headers  Jetsam single mPCIE  Flotsam single mSATA
>>>
>>> feedback and/or suggestions are welcome!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
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