[MinnowBoard] BIOS/UEFI/Firmware settings hotkey?
Darren Hart
dvhart at linux.intel.com
Fri Apr 25 15:56:02 UTC 2014
We have a firmware category for minnow board bugs in the yoctoproject
bugzilla. Would you be willing to add a bug for this? I'll triage it and
try to get it to the right people.
On 4/24/14, 16:03, "Jack Black" <theworkaccount2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Correct
>
>I did try hitting + and - a bunch while booting but all I ended up
>with is + and - on the shell prompt.
>
>Also it appears I can get to that menu by doing exit two consecutive
>times from the shell (it's therefore possible that the menu existed
>pre-1.0 and that I just never bothered to exit twice in a row.) The
>reason I'm still searching for the magic key to break into a boot menu
>is because even hitting esc a bunch won't drop me to the EFI shell
>when booting Windows 8. There you have to either do the special
>settings dance from within windows (which I've seen before but haven't
>re-looked up), or you take the simpler route of just unplugging the HD
>and waiting for the shell/boot menu.
>
>I'm done for the day but tomorrow I will try messing with bcfg to see
>if I can disable the fastboot to make it maybe just stall at the boot
>menu so that I always have to press enter (or hopefully it would
>timeout after 5 sec) to then boot into the first entry. (The yocto
>document is interesting because it says "Select the Shell from the EFI
>boot menu, or allow it to timeout and start the shell automatically."
>which implies I should be seeing the boot menu before it goes into the
>shell which is definitely not the case. I see "Connecting all devices"
>and then straight to shell (or win 8 boot) no matter what keys I
>hammer on.)
>
>JB
>
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Neill Kapron <nkapron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I don't think this solves Jack's issue, as he does not want to boot
>>into the
>> UiApp every boot, but instead he is looking for a way to enter the app
>>on
>> select boots without first booting to the shell then exiting to the boot
>> menu.
>>
>> This is why I suggest trying to spam the '+' or '-' key to see if it
>>brings
>> up the boot menu before booting to the shell.
>>
>> Neill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Darren Hart <dvhart at linux.intel.com>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> This is documented here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-minnow/tree/README?h=mast
>>>er#
>>> n181
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/24/14, 12:31, "Amaya, Elmer A" <elmer.a.amaya at intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi Jack,
>>> >
>>> >Pls use the "bcfg" shell command to change the boot order - that
>>>command
>>> >modifies the UEFI NVRAM entries which should allow you to change the
>>>boot
>>> >entries or driver options.
>>> >
>>> >Quick tutorial:
>>> >
>>> >At the UEFI Shell prompt, enter the following shell command to display
>>> >current boot entries:
>>> >
>>> >bcfg boot dump -v
>>> >
>>> >In my MB, it shows the following boot options:
>>> >
>>> >Option: 00. Variable: Boot0000
>>> > Desc - Shell
>>> > DevPath - Fv(07F426A2-5F6B-4ED5-9B35-6FF191BFB4DD)/Shell
>>> > Optional- N
>>> >Option: 01. Variable: Boot0001
>>> > Desc - UiApp
>>> > DevPath - Fv(30D9ED01-38D2-418A-90D5-C561750BF80F)/UiApp
>>> > Optional- N
>>> >Option: 02. Variable: Boot0002
>>> > Desc - EFI USB Device
>>> > DevPath -
>>>
>>> >
>>>>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x17,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x8,0x3)/USB(0x0,0x0)/HD(1,
>>>>MBR
>>> >,0x00000000,0x40,0x3BAFC0)
>>> > Optional- N
>>> >
>>> >Now, to change the boot order and have the "UiApp" as first option,
>>> >simply move it to the top. I used the following command to do so:
>>> >
>>> >bcfg boot mv 1 0
>>> >
>>> >Pls let me know if you have any questions.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >Elmer
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org
>>> >[mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Jack
>>> >Black
>>> >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:58 AM
>>> >To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
>>> >Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] BIOS/UEFI/Firmware settings hotkey?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks Neill.
>>> >
>>> >And Dave you're extra incorrect (I don't know why someone from the
>>> >company that's making minnows would argue that any UI is evidence of
>>> >legacy BIOS :/). After I updated the minnow to firmware 1.0 and
>>>unplugged
>>> >my HD (or if I do some sort of weird combo of typing exit then hitting
>>> >esc then typing exit from the shell) I now have a boot menu option
>>>which
>>> >lists "shell", or "UiApp" which takes me into the expected settings UI
>>> >(and it even has options for enrolling keys for secureboot and
>>>such!), or
>>> >my bootable HD, bootable USB, or boot from network (IPv4 and IPv6).
>>> >
>>> >So my question kind of still remains: is there anything I can mash to
>>> >guarantee I get directly to that menu without having to go through the
>>> >shell exit/esc rigamarole?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Much appreciated,
>>> >JB
>>> >
>>> >On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Neill Kapron <nkapron at gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> >> So after some examination, Intel has included the simple BDS in
>>> >> MinnowBoardPkg/Bds/ instead of the full BDS in
>>> >> IntelFrameworkModulePkg/Universal/BdsDxe/
>>> >>
>>> >> It would appear that the keys that are enabled are '+', '-', 'Esc'
>>>and
>>> >>'e'.
>>> >>
>>> >> I would assume + or - draws a short boot device selection menu.
>>> >>
>>> >> '+' Selects the boot device earlier in the list, '-' Selects the
>>>boot
>>> >> device later in the list, 'Esc' and 'e' leave the list and clear the
>>> >> display, booting from the currently selected boot device.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think it would be possible to build a firmware image that enables
>>> >> the more useful setup menu, but I do not have a minnowboard yet to
>>>test
>>> >>on.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hopefully this helps,
>>> >> Neill
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Neill Kapron <nkapron at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dave,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You are incorrect. There is still support for graphical setup
>>> >>> browsers in UEFI. Any modern UEFI-based PC motherboard is a great
>>> >>> example of this. In fact, most native UEFI browsers are much nicer
>>> >>> than legacy bios implementations. (Decent graphics and mouse
>>> >>> support.)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm looking through the source tree now, and have identified that
>>> >>> Intel has left code for boot device management and configuration in
>>> >>> the tree- see the comment below from
>>> >>> /IntelFrameworkModulePkg/Universal/BdsDxe/FrontPage.c
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> //
>>> >>> // If gCallbackKey is greater than 1 and less or equal to 5,
>>> >>> // it will launch configuration utilities.
>>> >>> // 2 = set language
>>> >>> // 3 = boot manager
>>> >>> // 4 = device manager
>>> >>> // 5 = boot maintenance manager
>>> >>> //
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I do not have a minnowboard to test on, and they may have neutered
>>>it
>>> >>> somewhere, but am looking for the hotkeys currently.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Neill
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Anders
>>><danders at circuitco.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jack,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 04/23/2014 03:59 PM, Jack Black wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Other Intel developer boards I've used had both the UEFI shell
>>>and
>>> >>>>> a settings page, where when you would type "exit" from the shell,
>>> >>>>> it would drop you to the setting UI where you could do things
>>>like
>>> >>>>> change UEFI secure boot keys, change boot order, etc. I take it
>>> >>>>> then that the minnow firmware lacks this? (I know it lacks secure
>>> >>>>> boot, but I'm wondering if it completely lacks a firmware setup
>>> >>>>> options screen...)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> what you are referring to is called "Legacy BIOS". Legcy BIOS
>>> >>>> options can be included as part of the UEFI build however based on
>>> >>>> the minnowboard being targeted more at embedded application space,
>>> >>>> the decision was made not to include Legacy BIOS functionality.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> most "PCs" current do include the Legacy BIOS functionality, but
>>> >>>> going forward most new x86 based designs will only include the
>>>core
>>> >>>> UEFI support without Legacy BIOS...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dave
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> JB
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:22 PM, David Anders
>>> >>>>> <danders at circuitco.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> JB,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> UEFI works very differently that what traditional BIOS features
>>> >>>>>> most people are familiar with.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> as you boot, you can stop the boot process and drop into a UEFI
>>> >>>>>>shell.
>>> >>>>>> this
>>> >>>>>> shell is very similar to a minimal DOS implementation
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>>https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/efi-shells-and-scripting
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> you can view/edit settings from there...
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Dave
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 04/23/2014 03:19 PM, Jack Black wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> (just called it BIOS to help future googlers ;))
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to get into the UEFI settings on a stock
>>> >>>>>>> minnowboard? I mashed esc and F9-F12 to no avail. I would like
>>>to
>>> >>>>>>> see what options are exposed, and also boot from a USB CD for
>>> >>>>>>>installation to a HD.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Much appreciated,
>>> >>>>>>> JB
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