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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Tim, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">a strong +1 for a meeting in Vienna from my side, as I also (kind of) proposed it.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While I love discussing things in the open, I really appreciated the “closed group” discussion. Do you see a chance for both and
turn the “or” of question 2) into an “and”? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Strongly agree that 1h will be to short to come to any substantial discussion/conclusion as we were rushing quite through the topics last time. I am really looking forward to such an
inspiring round table again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a id="OWAAMD80E64C4DC1A4C2AB18CA36E92D58F0A" href="mailto:Tim.Bird@sony.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;text-decoration:none">@Bird, Tim</span></a> could it be that
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<span lang="EN-US">is not set active yet? I am subscribed, and I set my settings to get monthly reminder on my subscription, but I never received a mail and also not received it now as you CCed it. Also SPAM is checked and empty.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mark Filion <mark.filion@collabora.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 10. Mai 2024 21:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Walt Miner <wminer@linuxfoundation.org>; Bird, Tim <Tim.Bird@sony.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) <Philipp.Ahmann@de.bosch.com>; Knight, Megan <megankn@amazon.com>; Grant Likely <grant.likely@arm.com>; Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>; Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>; Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>;
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>; Drew Fustini <dfustini@baylibre.com>; Steve Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>; Yoshitake Kobayashi (yoshitake.kobayashi@toshiba.co.jp) <yoshitake.kobayashi@toshiba.co.jp>; Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>; Jan
Lubbe <jlu@pengutronix.de>; Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd.simons@collabora.com>; Andrew Wafaa <andrew.wafaa@arm.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for the delayed reply. +1 to Walt's comments, Vienna would be great, and the format really depends on what the objectives of the meeting are. However, as Yoshi mentioned, we had to skip quite a few slides last time so a one-hour slot
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On Mon, 2024-05-06 at 13:45 -0400, Walt Miner wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:34 PM Bird, Tim <<a href="mailto:Tim.Bird@sony.com">Tim.Bird@sony.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) <<a href="mailto:Philipp.Ahmann@de.bosch.com" target="_blank">Philipp.Ahmann@de.bosch.com</a>><br>
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Indeed. Thanks Megan and Phillip for following up on this. I'll intersperse<br>
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> I hope that I subscribed to the CE Linux mailing list, which Tim proposed and<br>
> repurposed after the last meeting in Prague. But I never saw a mail there...<o:p></o:p></p>
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Well, I got the e-mail list all prepared, and I believe a number of people subscribed,<br>
but then I failed to follow up with e-mails to the list. This message is<br>
CCed to the list (<a href="mailto:elinux-discuss@lists.elinux.org" target="_blank">elinux-discuss@lists.elinux.org</a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
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> I am not aware about a follow up, and was so busy before OSS NA, that I missed to drop such a mail on the mailing list before OSS NA.<br>
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> Maybe many of us will be there (or at plumbers following OSS EU)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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I'm willing to set up an Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) in Vienna.<br>
I can probably get a meeting room there. I may have a little bit of money still at my disposal<br>
from the remnants of the CE Linux Project. Or, if someone has a sponsor room that they<br>
can spare for a 1-hour (or so) meeting, we could use that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Or, some other ideas are to open this up as a BOF at either ELC or LPC in Vienna<br>
(instead of a private meeting like we had in Prague).<br>
I discussed ELLS at an embedded BOF last year in Plumbers, and a few kernel<br>
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I'm still working on an embedded micro-conference at LPC. That, however, is focused<br>
specifically on boot time. The LPC BOF slots have not opened for proposals yet (I think),<br>
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I think it would be good to follow up. Maybe if I had been communicating with this<br>
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1) if you think it would be good to try to meet in Vienna in September, and<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either way is fine. Depends on what we want to get out of it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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