From Tim.Bird at sony.com Mon May 6 17:10:02 2024 From: Tim.Bird at sony.com (Bird, Tim) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 17:10:02 +0000 Subject: [Elinux-discuss] Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup In-Reply-To: <620CAA74-F079-40C2-8548-B3F6E8DD2CC3@amazon.com> References: <620CAA74-F079-40C2-8548-B3F6E8DD2CC3@amazon.com> Message-ID: Hey Megan, and others that came to the Embedded Linux Leadership Summit last year. It was great to see you too. I wish we had had more time to talk in person. The Embedded Linux Leadership summit was not held in Seattle, but I'd like to discuss the status of that, and follow up in reply to the message by Phillip. -- Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Knight, Megan > Hi All, > > Great to have seen a few of you in person in Seattle. I was curious if this meeting was held again, or if we've continued discussions elsewhere. > > meganknight, PMP > Sr. Program Manager, Open Source > Amazon Web Services > > c: +1 303-718-6695 | e: megankn at amazon.com > > > > > ?On 7/20/23, 1:46 PM, "Bird, Tim" > wrote: > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender > and know the content is safe. > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > Sorry this has taken so long for me to post. I've been on extended vacation and just got back to work (full time) this week. > Here is a link to meeting notes from the Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (2023). > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NhwyV0E02B2H3uQlZyx6HkDUvW_7Vt3BZvnUL0mkR3M/edit?usp=sharing > > > > Here are the slides: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xiw0YpUJ6FRwAKiQBj3wncDi8XUvvuMV/view?usp=sharing > > > > Much thanks to Jan Lubbe for taking the meeting notes. The slides are the full deck (some of which I didn't > present at the meeting, and some from a previous status talk that included only for reference material > (in case needed in the meeting)). > > > Thank you all for participating in the meeting. It was short, but there was a lot of good information > shared, and some good feedback and ideas from all participants. I was happy that each of you could > make it (and made time to be available for it). > > > In the short term, I will work on setting up an e-mail list for future discussions. My plan is to make > the list public, as is the Open Source way (similar in spirit to ksummit-discuss). I won't auto-subscribe > anyone to the new list, but will let you all know when it is created and available for subscription, if > you are interested. > > > There are other items to follow up on, that I'll talk about more on that list going forward. > > > Thanks again - hope your summer is going well! > -- Tim > > > > > > From Tim.Bird at sony.com Mon May 6 17:34:12 2024 From: Tim.Bird at sony.com (Bird, Tim) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 17:34:12 +0000 Subject: [Elinux-discuss] Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup In-Reply-To: References: <620CAA74-F079-40C2-8548-B3F6E8DD2CC3@amazon.com> Message-ID: Hey Embedded Linux Leaders, > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) > Hi Megan, > > thanks for initiating this mail and bringing ELLS back to life. Indeed. Thanks Megan and Phillip for following up on this. I'll intersperse some status and proposals below. > I hope that I subscribed to the CE Linux mailing list, which Tim proposed and > repurposed after the last meeting in Prague. But I never saw a mail there... Well, I got the e-mail list all prepared, and I believe a number of people subscribed, but then I failed to follow up with e-mails to the list. This message is CCed to the list (elinux-discuss at lists.elinux.org). In order to avoid spamming people, and open up the conversations to other interested parties, I will start dropping individual addresses in future messages in this (and other) threads. > I am not aware about a follow up, and was so busy before OSS NA, that I missed to drop such a mail on the mailing list before OSS NA. No problem. I should have been on top of it. > > Should we consider a meeting in Vienna during the shorter ELC at OSS EU? > Maybe many of us will be there (or at plumbers following OSS EU)? I'm willing to set up an Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) in Vienna. I can probably get a meeting room there. I may have a little bit of money still at my disposal from the remnants of the CE Linux Project. Or, if someone has a sponsor room that they can spare for a 1-hour (or so) meeting, we could use that. Or, some other ideas are to open this up as a BOF at either ELC or LPC in Vienna (instead of a private meeting like we had in Prague). I discussed ELLS at an embedded BOF last year in Plumbers, and a few kernel community members gave feedback that they thought it should be more open. I'm still working on an embedded micro-conference at LPC. That, however, is focused specifically on boot time. The LPC BOF slots have not opened for proposals yet (I think), and we have not done the program review for ELC BOFs yet (so I might be able to slip one in.) I think it would be good to follow up. Maybe if I had been communicating with this group more regularly, we could have avoided the unfortunate collision of ELC Europe with Embedded Recipes this year. In any event, please let me know (by replying to this email): 1) if you think it would be good to try to meet in Vienna in September, and 2) whether you think this should be a private, invitation-only meeting again, or a more public BOF-style meeting. Thanks, -- Tim From wminer at linuxfoundation.org Mon May 6 17:45:42 2024 From: wminer at linuxfoundation.org (Walt Miner) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 13:45:42 -0400 Subject: [Elinux-discuss] Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup In-Reply-To: References: <620CAA74-F079-40C2-8548-B3F6E8DD2CC3@amazon.com> Message-ID: Walt Miner AGL Community Manager The Linux Foundation Visit us at: www.automotivegradelinux.org lists.automotivelinux.org www.linuxfoundation.org On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 1:34?PM Bird, Tim wrote: > Hey Embedded Linux Leaders, > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) > > Hi Megan, > > > > thanks for initiating this mail and bringing ELLS back to life. > > Indeed. Thanks Megan and Phillip for following up on this. I'll > intersperse > some status and proposals below. > > > I hope that I subscribed to the CE Linux mailing list, which Tim > proposed and > > repurposed after the last meeting in Prague. But I never saw a mail > there... > > Well, I got the e-mail list all prepared, and I believe a number of people > subscribed, > but then I failed to follow up with e-mails to the list. This message is > CCed to the list (elinux-discuss at lists.elinux.org). > > In order to avoid spamming people, and open up the conversations to other > interested parties, > I will start dropping individual addresses in future messages in this (and > other) threads. > > > I am not aware about a follow up, and was so busy before OSS NA, that I > missed to drop such a mail on the mailing list before OSS NA. > No problem. I should have been on top of it. > > > > > Should we consider a meeting in Vienna during the shorter ELC at OSS EU? > > Maybe many of us will be there (or at plumbers following OSS EU)? > > I'm willing to set up an Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) in Vienna. > I can probably get a meeting room there. I may have a little bit of money > still at my disposal > from the remnants of the CE Linux Project. Or, if someone has a sponsor > room that they > can spare for a 1-hour (or so) meeting, we could use that. > > Or, some other ideas are to open this up as a BOF at either ELC or LPC in > Vienna > (instead of a private meeting like we had in Prague). > I discussed ELLS at an embedded BOF last year in Plumbers, and a few kernel > community members gave feedback that they thought it should be more open. > > I'm still working on an embedded micro-conference at LPC. That, however, > is focused > specifically on boot time. The LPC BOF slots have not opened for > proposals yet (I think), > and we have not done the program review for ELC BOFs yet (so I might be > able to slip > one in.) > > I think it would be good to follow up. Maybe if I had been communicating > with this > group more regularly, we could have avoided the unfortunate collision of > ELC Europe with > Embedded Recipes this year. > > In any event, please let me know (by replying to this email): > 1) if you think it would be good to try to meet in Vienna in September, > and > Yes > 2) whether you think this should be a private, invitation-only meeting > again, > or a more public BOF-style meeting. > Either way is fine. Depends on what we want to get out of it. > > Thanks, > -- Tim > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yoshitake.kobayashi at toshiba.co.jp Tue May 7 12:12:21 2024 From: yoshitake.kobayashi at toshiba.co.jp (yoshitake.kobayashi at toshiba.co.jp) Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 12:12:21 +0000 Subject: [Elinux-discuss] Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup In-Reply-To: References: <620CAA74-F079-40C2-8548-B3F6E8DD2CC3@amazon.com> Message-ID: Hi Tim and all, >In any event, please let me know (by replying to this email): > 1) if you think it would be good to try to meet in Vienna in September, and Yes. That is a great idea. > 2) whether you think this should be a private, invitation-only meeting again, > or a more public BOF-style meeting. I am fine with either options. Regarding the public BoF at ELC, I have one concern. If we have multiple topics like in the last meeting, the one-hour time slot (or a ELC BoF session) may not be fit. Best regards, Yoshi ________________________________ ???: Bird, Tim ????: 2024?5?7? 2:34 ??: Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) ; Knight, Megan ; Grant Likely ; Kevin Hilman ; Kate Stewart ; Walt Miner ; Richard Purdie ; Jan Kiszka ; Drew Fustini ; Steve Rostedt ; kobayashi yoshitake(?? ?? ?????????) ; Thomas Petazzoni ; Jan Lubbe ; Sjoerd Simons ; Mark Filion ; Andrew Wafaa CC: elinux-discuss at lists.elinux.org ??: RE: Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) followup Hey Embedded Linux Leaders, > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmann Philipp (XC-CP/PRM1) > Hi Megan, > > thanks for initiating this mail and bringing ELLS back to life. Indeed. Thanks Megan and Phillip for following up on this. I'll intersperse some status and proposals below. > I hope that I subscribed to the CE Linux mailing list, which Tim proposed and > repurposed after the last meeting in Prague. But I never saw a mail there... Well, I got the e-mail list all prepared, and I believe a number of people subscribed, but then I failed to follow up with e-mails to the list. This message is CCed to the list (elinux-discuss at lists.elinux.org). In order to avoid spamming people, and open up the conversations to other interested parties, I will start dropping individual addresses in future messages in this (and other) threads. > I am not aware about a follow up, and was so busy before OSS NA, that I missed to drop such a mail on the mailing list before OSS NA. No problem. I should have been on top of it. > > Should we consider a meeting in Vienna during the shorter ELC at OSS EU? > Maybe many of us will be there (or at plumbers following OSS EU)? I'm willing to set up an Embedded Linux Leadership Summit (ELLS) in Vienna. I can probably get a meeting room there. I may have a little bit of money still at my disposal from the remnants of the CE Linux Project. Or, if someone has a sponsor room that they can spare for a 1-hour (or so) meeting, we could use that. Or, some other ideas are to open this up as a BOF at either ELC or LPC in Vienna (instead of a private meeting like we had in Prague). I discussed ELLS at an embedded BOF last year in Plumbers, and a few kernel community members gave feedback that they thought it should be more open. I'm still working on an embedded micro-conference at LPC. That, however, is focused specifically on boot time. The LPC BOF slots have not opened for proposals yet (I think), and we have not done the program review for ELC BOFs yet (so I might be able to slip one in.) I think it would be good to follow up. Maybe if I had been communicating with this group more regularly, we could have avoided the unfortunate collision of ELC Europe with Embedded Recipes this year. In any event, please let me know (by replying to this email): 1) if you think it would be good to try to meet in Vienna in September, and 2) whether you think this should be a private, invitation-only meeting again, or a more public BOF-style meeting. Thanks, -- Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: