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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the “openwrt” lure is not a bad idea, but I question how expensive it’s going to be (and want people to keep this in mind). It looks like you can pick
up a reasonably decent 802.11ac device with mainline support for openwrt for ~$100 now (in fact there’s only one mainline device that supports 802.11ac if I’m looking correctly). Keeping in mind that to even get started we are already at ~$100 just for the
MAX. The MAX would clearly be SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than most routers, but is that enough to justify the cost?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I know there’s been other talk of lures to include similar things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Single AND Dual port gig-e<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seacat already has mSATA and mPCI-e<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So what we are really suggesting here is adding a pci-e bridge, daisy chaining a dual-port gig-e chip off one lane and routing another leg to a mPCI-E slot
so people can add a wifi card. And taking one of the gig-e ports and breaking it out to a switch (one that I’d assume is vlan capable). Dave Anders is right, that this won’t fit in the same form factor as the MAX, and will likely be fairly large (overall),
and pci-e bridge chips are rather expensive chips.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If there’s interest, I’m all for pushing forward, but I want to try and get a real feeling for how interesting this is to people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces@lists.elinux.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Hart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MinnowBoard] mSATA Lure (aka Flotsam Lure)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">With respect to the integrated switch, I would recommend avoiding that and leaving them as discrete Ethernet interfaces. You can always bridge them in software,
making the design much more flexible. This is how the Ubiquiti Edge Router Lite is setup and I find it very nice to work with.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Unless you meant 2 distinct interfaces AND a built-in switch, in which case sure - although I think it might get cost/size prohibitive rather quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Darren Hart<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>Open Source Technology Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:darren.hart@intel.com"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">darren.hart@intel.com</span></a><span class="apple-tab-span"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> Intel Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Michael Jarvis <</span><a href="mailto:mjarvis.tx.08@gmail.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">mjarvis.tx.08@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <</span><a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, August 29, 2014 at 11:54<br>
<b>To: </b>MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <</span><a href="mailto:elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">elinux-minnowboard@lists.elinux.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [MinnowBoard] mSATA Lure (aka Flotsam Lure)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">OpenWRT is definitely an application I'm interested in for the Minnowboard Max, so I'm chiming in on the lure page. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I could see even different levels of OpenWRT lure, with a simple dual gigabit ethernet NICs at the low end, and perhaps a high-end lure with an integrated switch,
wireless NIC, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 08/29/2014 11:33 AM, </span><a href="mailto:selsinork@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">selsinork@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">those are very much from the embedded world. Then put something like<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">hehe, very different definitions of embedded, hehe<br>
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when we did the design for Max this type of application wasn't really a target, but it is certainly flexible enough to support this use case. we'd just need to get the right combination of features on a lure with the right price and size...<br>
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i'd suggest for anyone interested in this type of Lure, that they provide feed back over on the elinux wiki:<br>
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</span><a href="http://www.elinux.org/OpenWRT_Lure" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">http://www.elinux.org/OpenWRT_Lure</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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