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Chris,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/11/2014 06:12 PM, Chris Benson
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<div dir="ltr">Dave,
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<div>Sorry. I'll try to rephrase a couple of those questions to
clarify.</div>
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<div>How many NIC Lures could be used simultaneously on a MAX?</div>
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because the MinnowMax only has a single PCIe channel, you would only
be able to use a single NIC Lure. if you need more ethernet
interfaces, there are options available such as Realtek parts that
provide multiple nics from a single PCIe channel...<br>
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<div>When you use the phrase 'USB Hub Lure', can you confirm
that you will be offering an 'Ethernet hub' rather than an
'Ethernet switch'? (per the definitions stated on this
webpage: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170">http://www.blackbox.com/resources/blackboxexplains.aspx?id=bbe_4170</a> )</div>
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this is a USB Hub Lure, not ethernet....<br>
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the USB Hub Lure is nothing more that a standard USB chip (Microchip
USB2514) that provides 4 additional USB2 host ports...<br>
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<div>Regarding a hypothetical partner program, I was not
referring to the discussion on the mailing list. Will it be
possible for early adopters (i.e. product creators) to gain
access to pre-production Lure hardware prior to it being
generally available through retail distributors? That way we
can start building our own product prototypes on top of the
MAX at an earlier date.</div>
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we have not made any plans to do so since it would generally be cost
prohibitive to provide prototypes and/or pre-production boards. i.e.
a lure that normally would cost $35MSRP would probably cost $100 as
a pre-production due to the small quantity that are built as part of
the prototyping process.<br>
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<div>So regarding volume pricing, if I place a volume order for
10,000 MAX units, you are confirming you will charge me retail
prices.</div>
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MinnowBoard Max is not intended to be used directly in a
commercial/retail product and as such we expect to keep the retail
prices strictly for the general MinnowBoard community. circuitco can
offer you a "no minnowboard logo" version of the MinnowBoard Max.<br>
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<div>Given a 'yes' on the previous question, is it possible to
contract with CircuitCo for a separate private production run
with a lower cost structure?</div>
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yes you can get a quote from circuitco to provide you a provate
production run of a minnowmax variant. this is the preferred method
for OEM/ODM customers. by doing this we are able to address things
such as delivery schedules, testing concerns, and warranty/RMA
handling. this also allows to schedule out the proper allocation of
parts, schedule for production time on the assembly machines, and
allocation of employee resources for testing and shipping.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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<div>Great about the dates! I'll look forward to your update in
~2 weeks.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:51 PM,
David Anders <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:danders@circuitco.com" target="_blank">danders@circuitco.com</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Chris,
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<div>On 08/11/2014 05:47 PM, Chris Benson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dave,
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<div>Does the NIC Lure only come with a single <span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">PCIe-based
gigabit Realtek ethernet</span> port, or
will there be more than one?</div>
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currently the plan is to provide only one nic.
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<div>How many Lures can be used simultaneously
on a MAX?</div>
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that is entirely dependent on what interfaces are used
and how they are used.
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<div>Is the USB Hub Lure switched or unswitched?</div>
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i am sorry i do not understand your question...
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<div>Has CircuitCo considered creating a
'prototyping partner program' for early
adopters of specific Lures (like for people on
this mailing list)?</div>
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there are no plans to separate out the lures
discussions from the main mailing list.
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<div>Will it be possible to secure volume
discounts on the MAX and its Lures once
production ramps up sufficiently?</div>
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because of the way minnowmax pricing is structured,
there are no plans to provide volume discounts. this
is the same with other open hardware platforms such as
the beaglebone black...
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<div>Recognizing that Lures are still in
prototyping right now, could you please
announce target availability dates for these
Lures? For those of us with significant
dependencies on the proposed Lures, even an
extremely tentative 'no-promises' date would
be better than none at all.</div>
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i can't share any dates with you currently, but i will
be in a better position to do so in about two weeks.<br>
<br>
Dave
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 11,
2014 at 6:09 PM, David Anders <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danders@circuitco.com"
target="_blank">danders@circuitco.com</a>></span>
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Greetings All,<br>
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i'd like to share with everyone the
proposed list of lures that will
initially be available for the
MinnowBoard Max. this list is
currently just a proposed list and
some of the names/features may
change:<br>
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<table cols="2" border="0"
cellspacing="0">
<colgroup width="144"></colgroup>
<colgroup width="254"></colgroup>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER"
height="19"><b>Cape Name</b></td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER"><b>Description</b></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Calamari Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">Educational</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Moto Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">Dual
motor support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">MiniDisplay Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">SPI
based LCD with Touch</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">RS-232 Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">rs-232
with db-9 connector</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Generic Proto
Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">standard
prototype cap</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Power Supply
Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">
wide voltage range support </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Audio Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">new
audio cape based on cirrus
logic</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">PWM Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">32
PWM interfaces for LED/Servo</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">Relay Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">4
generic gpio controlled
relays</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">CAN Bus Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">CAN
Bus support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="LEFT"
height="19">RS-485 Lure</td>
<td style="border:1px solid
rgb(0,0,0)" align="CENTER">
RS-485 interface support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT" height="19">
ADC Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"> multiple ADC
inputs</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT" height="19">
SeaCat Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"> mPCIE+mSATA</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="LEFT" height="19">Nic
Lure</td>
<td align="CENTER">Gigabit
ethernet lure</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="LEFT" height="19">USB
Hub Lure</td>
<td align="CENTER">4 port USB
Hub</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT" height="19">
Ika Lure</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"> Arduino
Style Headers</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="LEFT" height="19">
Jetsam</td>
<td
style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-right-width:1px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(0,0,0)"
align="CENTER"> single mPCIE</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="LEFT" height="19">Flotsam</td>
<td align="CENTER">single
mSATA</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
feedback and/or suggestions are
welcome!<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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