[MinnowBoard] Firmware hang

Wed Oct 26 16:33:21 UTC 2016

being 65, it's all old school. and thanks, eric, that was what i meant, and
should have explicitly stated. my bad. i will try and be more clear in
future.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Richardson, Brian <
brian.richardson at intel.com> wrote:

> Ain’t no school like the old school J That’s a good option to explore,
> assuming it’s not too much additional cost for the manufacturer. Maybe
> someone from the hardware team can comment.
>
>
>
> Thanks … br
>
> ---
>
> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Software
>
> brian.richardson at intel.com -- http://evangelists.intel.com/
> bio/Brian_Richardson_
>
>
>
> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> bounces at lists.elinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Eric Wittmayer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:13 PM
> *To:* 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion' <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] Firmware hang
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>   I think he meant an old school 8 pin DIP socket.  I know that would use
> some more board real estate than that current package but a lot less than
> the kind ok socket I think you mean.
>
> I too would appreciate a socketed part.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>   Eric
>
>
>
> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> bounces at lists.elinux.org <elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Richardson, Brian
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] Firmware hang
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, there are many reliability issues with SPI sockets that
> make them unsuitable for production boards (hinges/doors/clips break after
> repeated use … I have experienced this often after years of working on
> pre-production hardware). It also takes more board real estate to mount a
> socket (layout issue & cost issue).
>
>
>
> The SPI 8-pin header is provided for easy reprogramming of the SPI part.
> SPI parts have a fairly long life cycle, even factoring in frequent
> reprogramming and storing NVRAM variables.
>
>
>
> When using a SPI hardware programmer, please make sure you’re using the
> correct voltage values. This can easily damage the SPI part. Using the
> default UEFI Shell app or Capsule update for firmware upgrades is the most
> reliable method, since the firmware is using proper values for that part.
>
>
>
> Thanks … br
>
> ---
>
> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel Software
>
> brian.richardson at intel.com -- http://evangelists.intel.com/
> bio/Brian_Richardson_
>
>
>
> *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> bounces at lists.elinux.org <elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Douglas Kryder
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:25 AM
> *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] Firmware hang
>
>
>
> because of this "decay" thru use of the chip and the nature of the board
> to be used by "makers", "experimenters", "researchers", and " hobbists" i'd
> sure like to see these chips to be mounted in socket type receptacles
> instead of surface mount. and i do not think i'm alone in desire for this
> change.  it would be a generous nod to the makers to place a socket. not
> sure there is much, if any, downside to doing this. others may want to help
> present the gains and loses.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Wu, Mike <mike.wu at intel.com> wrote:
>
>
> Be aware that SPI flash has limited life cycle. If we repeatedly erase it
> (like write big variable into it), the SPI chip will be dead very soon.
> Then it will look like variable corrupted.
>
> Best Regards
> Mike Wu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Eric Wittmayer
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:23 AM
> To: 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion'
> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Firmware hang
>
> Hi Sjoerd,
>    I had a similar problem on a minnowboard max.  I ended up replacing the
> SPI flash part on it and that solved the problem.  Of course I probably
> caused the problem by repeatedly programming the SPI flash with a 5v
> programmer while I was working on UEFI driver development.  I don't
> remember specifically where the boot would hang but repeated power cycling
> the board would get it too boot eventually.  The problem started out
> happening occasionally and slowly got worse until I had to power cycle many
> times to get a good boot.
>
> I used part # N25Q064A11ESE40G as the replacement.  Here is a link to
> Arrow where I purchased them.
> http://components.arrow.com/part/detail/51523204S9061241N1037
>
> Hope this helps.
>    Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-
> > bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Sjoerd Simons
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:42 AM
> > To: elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org
> > Subject: [MinnowBoard] Firmware hang
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > I've been having issues with some of the minnowboard max boards in our
> > test lab for a while where at times they never finished post.
> > Reflashing the flash seemed to help for a while, until the issues came
> back
> > again. With the debug version of the firmware the last few lines
> > are:
> >
> > Gpio_S5_4 value is 0x3
> > Gpio_S5_17 value is 0x3
> > Firmware Volume for Variable Store is corrupted Firmware Volume for
> > Variable Store is corrupted
> >
> > ASSERT_EFI_ERROR (Status = Not Found)
> > ASSERT m:\Vlv2TbltDevicePkg\PlatformInitPei\PlatformEarlyInit.c(213):
> > !EFI_ERROR (Status)
> >
> >
> > A full log can be found here:
> >   https://lava.collabora.co.uk/scheduler/job/367353/log_file
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > --
> > Sjoerd Simons
> > Collabora Ltd.
> >
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