[MinnowBoard] How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX (or turbot)?
Emir Elkholy
emirelkholy at gmail.com
Fri May 6 16:18:57 UTC 2016
Hello B-O,
Thank you for the information and the pcidump utility that you sent me!
Thanks,
Emir
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> From: "Eric" <ericolv at cox.net>
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> When I said, drivers will probably be an issue, I was referring to IoT
> Core. A google search pointed me to a link for RealSense Camera R200 SDKs
> and Drivers for Windows 8.1 64bit & Windows 10 64bit.
>
>
>
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Kryder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:47 PM
> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] new install of windows 10
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
> you should spend some time learning exactly what builds do and do not
> support the realsense sytem of drivers and the sdk. now, as far as i know,
> windows 10 desktop is the only one that supports R200 and even that is an
> unknown on the Atom chip. if you come up with some links that demonstrate
> the r200 works on ther builds post them.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Eric <ericolv at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, drivers will probably be an issue. If you have access, you might
> try Win 8.1 embedded or Win XPe (still supported by MS) There?s a very
> good chance your driver will work and they will probably be better with
> limited resources.
>
>
>
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Kryder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:46 PM
> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] new install of windows 10
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
> it does moderately choke at times but i expected that. basically i'm
> interested in a portable realsense R200 camera and i don't think IoT core
> supports the drivers. That is what i've read anyway.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Eric <ericolv at cox.net> wrote:
>
> I have the same setup (MB max not Turbot), running the latest insider
> version of W10 IoT Core. Are you running Core or another Win10 release?
>
>
>
> I?ve also tried Windows 8.1 Embedded, which worked well. I?ve not tried
> loading Win 10 Pro, or similar. I thought it would probably boot up but
> with only 2gb of RAM, resource constraints wouldn?t allow for much else.
> I would like to hear your experience.
>
>
>
> The SSD card has worked flawlessly, since I bought it several months ago.
> I haven?t had any other real problems, with the exception of my mPCIE
> Intel Wireless AC 7260 card. I have it installed in the mPCIE slot of my
> Silverjaw. If someone knows how to install the driver, if one exists
> for my OS, I would be very appreciative if you could tell me. I posted
> the question on a couple different Intel forums but received the same
> generic response, which pointed me to their driver downloads. I don?t
> think I was able to convey the point, I?m running W10 IoT Core, instead of
> another version and the Intel downloads page has no explicit reference to
> IoT Core.
>
>
>
> From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Kryder
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org
> Subject: [MinnowBoard] new install of windows 10
>
>
>
> hello,
>
> i was able to install windows 10 on a minnowboard turbot with a mSata
> SSD on silverjaw
>
> lure today without too many issues. there was one reboot during the
> process when it failed to boot to the board instead of the CD but i have
> had that with other hardware. I hope to get intel realsense R200 camera
> working and hopefully have a very small hardware package in order to make
> it mobile. anyway, first post to the list, i have been reading for the last
> week.
>
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> From: Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> MAX (or turbot)?
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> Hi Eric, I have sent the utility.
>
> Regarding keyboard, it?s the RMH (Rate Matching Hub) that is the problem.
> It?s a hardware bug in the SoC and there are no work the RMH. One
> workaround that I have used successfully is connecting a high speed hub.
> You the connect the keyboard to the hub, thus bypassing the RMH.
>
> For SD card, when you shut down or do hardware reset, the SD card present
> bit is lost. This is a hardware issue within the SoC. If you pull out the
> card and reinsert it, then do shut down or hardware reset, the present bit
> will be set and SD card will boot.
>
> Regarding the NIC, if it?s present on the PCI bus it will work. The OS
> just needs to have the correct driver for it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> B-O
>
> > 5 maj 2016 kl. 18:47 skrev Emir Elkholy <emirelkholy at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi B-O,
> >
> > That is great, you can send it to emirelkholy at gmail.com <mailto:
> emirelkholy at gmail.com>. I really like using your BIOS, it boots up super
> fast, I'm very impressed. I have been looking at the BIOS settings using
> the SMT tool as you suggested, and it does match the PCI bus information
> that my driver reports from Windows CE (PCI bus number 3/0/0). However, is
> it possible that the BIOS is not initializing something in the NIC that the
> OS needs to load the appropriate driver? Only reason I ask is because
> sometimes the Winzent BIOS fails to initialize the keyboard controller, or
> even load the image on the SD card. I believe I read somewhere that this is
> because the BIOS loads too fast for low quality peripherals (slow USB, SD
> card, or keyboard controllers). The only adjustment I see in the BIOS is to
> add a delay for the USB to boot up (but we are not even using USB). Is it
> safer to load the OS image (if it can fit) on the on board flash? Just
> wanted to see what is the optimal setu
> p that would allow the system to bootup with all the peripherals (SD
> card, keyboard, ethernet port) everytime without having to cycle power
> multiple times.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Emir
> >
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> > 1. Re: new install of windows 10 (Douglas Kryder)
> > 2. Re: Minnowboard Turbot PCI UART (Wei, David)
> > 3. Re: How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX (or turbot)?
> > (Emir Elkholy) (Berth-Olof Bergman)
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> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 15:47:10 -0700
> > From: Douglas Kryder <dkryder at gmail.com <mailto:dkryder at gmail.com>>
> > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
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> > Eric,
> > you should spend some time learning exactly what builds do and do not
> > support the realsense sytem of drivers and the sdk. now, as far as i
> know,
> > windows 10 desktop is the only one that supports R200 and even that is an
> > unknown on the Atom chip. if you come up with some links that demonstrate
> > the r200 works on ther builds post them.
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Eric <ericolv at cox.net <mailto:
> ericolv at cox.net>> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, drivers will probably be an issue. If you have access, you might
> > > try Win 8.1 embedded or Win XPe (still supported by MS) There?s a very
> > > good chance your driver will work and they will probably be better with
> > > limited resources.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> > > elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] *On Behalf Of *Douglas
> Kryder
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:46 PM
> > > *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] new install of windows 10
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric,
> > >
> > > it does moderately choke at times but i expected that. basically i'm
> > > interested in a portable realsense R200 camera and i don't think IoT
> core
> > > supports the drivers. That is what i've read anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Eric <ericolv at cox.net <mailto:
> ericolv at cox.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the same setup (MB max not Turbot), running the latest insider
> > > version of W10 IoT Core. Are you running Core or another Win10
> release?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I?ve also tried Windows 8.1 Embedded, which worked well. I?ve not
> tried
> > > loading Win 10 Pro, or similar. I thought it would probably boot up
> but
> > > with only 2gb of RAM, resource constraints wouldn?t allow for much
> else.
> > > I would like to hear your experience.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The SSD card has worked flawlessly, since I bought it several months
> > > ago. I haven?t had any other real problems, with the exception of my
> > > mPCIE Intel Wireless AC 7260 card. I have it installed in the mPCIE
> slot
> > > of my Silverjaw. If someone knows how to install the driver, if
> one
> > > exists for my OS, I would be very appreciative if you could tell me.
> I
> > > posted the question on a couple different Intel forums but received the
> > > same generic response, which pointed me to their driver downloads. I
> don?t
> > > think I was able to convey the point, I?m running W10 IoT Core,
> instead of
> > > another version and the Intel downloads page has no explicit reference
> to
> > > IoT Core.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> > > elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] *On Behalf Of *Douglas
> Kryder
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:19 PM
> > > *To:* elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>
> > > *Subject:* [MinnowBoard] new install of windows 10
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hello,
> > >
> > > i was able to install windows 10 on a minnowboard turbot with a
> mSata
> > > SSD on silverjaw
> > >
> > > lure today without too many issues. there was one reboot during the
> > > process when it failed to boot to the board instead of the CD but i
> have
> > > had that with other hardware. I hope to get intel realsense R200 camera
> > > working and hopefully have a very small hardware package in order to
> make
> > > it mobile. anyway, first post to the list, i have been reading for the
> last
> > > week.
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 01:39:29 +0000
> > From: "Wei, David" <david.wei at intel.com <mailto:david.wei at intel.com>>
> > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
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> > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Minnowboard Turbot PCI UART
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> 89954A0B46707A448411A627AD4EEE3437D1A4E0 at SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com
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> > All SCC and LPSS devices, including HS UART are switched into ACPI mode
> by BIOS before handing off to OS.
> > You could switch SCC and LPSS devices back to PCI mode by BIOS setting
> "Device Manager -> System Setup -> South Cluster Configuration -> LPSS and
> SCC Configuration". But this is not recommended.
> >
> > The HSUART ACPI objects are :
> >
> > //
> > // LPIO1 HS-UART #1
> > //
> > Device(URT1)
> > {
> > Name (_ADR, 0)
> > Name (_HID, "80860F0A")
> > Name (_CID, "80860F0A")
> > Name (_DDN, "Intel(R) HS-UART Controller #1 - 80860F0A")
> > Name (_UID, 1)
> > Name(_DEP, Package(0x1)
> > {
> > PEPD
> > })
> > Name (RBUF, ResourceTemplate ()
> > {
> > Memory32Fixed (ReadWrite, 0x00000000, 0x00001000, BAR0)
> > Interrupt (ResourceConsumer, Level, ActiveLow, Exclusive, , , )
> {39} // HS-UART #1 IRQ
> >
> > FixedDMA(0x2, 0x2, Width32Bit, )
> > FixedDMA(0x3, 0x3, Width32Bit, )
> > })
> > Method (_HRV, 0x0, NotSerialized)
> > {
> > Return (SOCS)
> > }
> > Method (_CRS, 0x0, NotSerialized)
> > {
> > CreateDwordField(^RBUF, ^BAR0._BAS, B0BA)
> > CreateDwordField(^RBUF, ^BAR0._LEN, B0LN)
> > Store(U10A, B0BA)
> > Store(U10L, B0LN)
> > Return (RBUF)
> > }
> > ...
> >
> > }// Device (URT1)
> >
> > //
> > // LPIO1 HS-UART #2
> > //
> > Device(URT2)
> > {
> > Name (_ADR, 0)
> > Name (_HID, "80860F0A")
> > Name (_CID, "80860F0A")
> > Name (_DDN, "Intel(R) HS-UART Controller #2 - 80860F0C")
> > Name (_UID, 2)
> >
> > Name(_DEP, Package(0x1)
> > {
> > PEPD
> > })
> >
> > Name (RBUF, ResourceTemplate ()
> > {
> > Memory32Fixed (ReadWrite, 0x00000000, 0x00001000, BAR0)
> > Interrupt (ResourceConsumer, Level, ActiveLow, Exclusive, , , )
> {40} // HS-UART #2 IRQ
> >
> > FixedDMA(0x4, 0x4, Width32Bit, )
> > FixedDMA(0x5, 0x5, Width32Bit, )
> > })
> >
> > Method (_HRV, 0x0, NotSerialized)
> > {
> > Return (SOCS)
> > }
> >
> > Method (_CRS, 0x0, NotSerialized)
> > {
> > CreateDwordField(^RBUF, ^BAR0._BAS, B0BA)
> > CreateDwordField(^RBUF, ^BAR0._LEN, B0LN)
> > Store(U20A, B0BA)
> > Store(U20L, B0LN)
> > Return (RBUF)
> > }
> > .....
> > }// Device (URT2)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > Intel SSG BIOS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] On Behalf Of Anders, David
> > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 4:32 AM
> > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
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> > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Minnowboard Turbot PCI UART
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > You'll need to make sure that the pin muxing for the uarts on the LSE
> are set properly in the UEFI setings, and you'll need to make sure you use
> a recent kernel with the uart driver enabled... there are two UARTS on the
> LSE to choose from, so make sure understand which one you plan to use and
> make that one is enabled...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>] On Behalf Of Sullivan,
> California L
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 3:28 PM
> > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
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> > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] Minnowboard Turbot PCI UART
> >
> > Hi there.
> >
> > I haven't used the HSUARTs, so I can't help much there, but I know ttyS0
> probably won't work for what you're trying to do. That's the debug UART (6
> pin connector next to the SATA connector) and is limited to a 115200 baud.
> >
> > I believe ttyS2 is the HSUART connected to pins 6/8/10/12 on the LSE,
> but again I haven't used it so I can't be too much help.
> >
> > ---
> > Cal
> >
> > On 05/04/2016 12:32 PM, the_drethon_tolar wrote:
> > Hi, I'm new here so let me know if I do anything wrong.
> >
> > I'm trying to use a Minnowboard Turbot for controlling a Bluetooth
> module via UART. We are trying to use the PCI UART1 but we aren't seeing
> the TX pins send any data.
> >
> > I've tried various settings in the BIOS to enable the serial port.
> Regardless, on startup Linux always just shows ttyS0 as an enabled serial
> port. Using minicom or just echoing to /dev/ttyS0 does not TX any data (we
> have an oscope on pin 6).
> >
> > lspci shows an HSUART controller with no I/O memory and so far I haven't
> found a way to enable this device, if that is what I should do.
> >
> > Can someone point me in the right direction, or drag me back to the path?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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> > Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:02:53 +0200
> > From: Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
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> > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
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> > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> > MAX (or turbot)? (Emir Elkholy)
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> > Hello,
> >
> > Yes, I have developed one that I use for the same purpose. Where can I
> send it?
> >
> > BTW, if you don?t attach any boot devices the internal OS (wDOS) will
> run. If you write SMT <enter> at the prompt and choose ?PCI Device
> Information? you will be able to see all the PCI devices found. If you move
> to any PCI device in the list and press <enter> you will be able to see all
> the details about the device.
> >
> > wBIOS always initializes all PCI device and assign resources to them. So
> any PCI device found are ready to use when the OS start. This is different
> than UEFI BIOS that doesn?t do much useful at all. Despite doing all
> initialization, wBIOS is about 10 times faster than UEFI BIOS.
> >
> > The SMT tool, is only a demonstration that our BIOS contains a 32-bit OS
> with a file system. That OS can be used for many purpose, like backup and
> restore or stand alone thin clients etc. It?s always included.
> >
> > In fact with our tools, you can add your own applications without
> changing the BIOS binary and rebuild a new flash image with your
> applications.
> >
> > wBIOS was developed from scratch to be used for embedded and consumer
> applications and as the BIOS image is only 64KB, we have plenty of room in
> the flash that we use for OEM hooks, OS and applications.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > B-O
> >
> > > 4 maj 2016 kl. 19:21 skrev Emir Elkholy <emirelkholy at gmail.com
> <mailto:emirelkholy at gmail.com>>:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We already have Winzent legacy BIOS installed, but what tools can be
> run from DOS to troubleshoot the PCIe bus? Is there a common tool that runs
> on DOS that can output all of the devices on the bus? This may help us with
> our issue of having the NIC recognized in Windows CE. Also, is there a
> known rev of the Minnowboard Max Turbot that has the NIC issue resolved (I
> read earlier that some nic issue was fixed in later boards). Just wanted to
> see if our board is one of the newer ones.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Emir
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:09 AM, <
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> > > 1. Re: : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX
> (or
> > > turbot)? (Berth-Olof Bergman)
> > > 2. Re: : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX (or
> > > turbot)? (Gerard Bucas)
> > > 3. Re: : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard MAX (or
> > > turbot)? (Berth-Olof Bergman)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:14:43 +0200
> > > From: Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>>
> > > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard
> > > MAX (or turbot)?
> > > Message-ID: <9B2F9823-168B-4DCF-9506-F3B9EF1E67BE at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:9B2F9823-168B-4DCF-9506-F3B9EF1E67BE at winzenttech.com> <mailto:
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> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > Thank you for your feedback! I?m glad I can be of any help for
> Minnowboard users.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > B-O
> > >
> > > > 4 maj 2016 kl. 18:12 skrev Anders, David <david.anders at intel.com
> <mailto:david.anders at intel.com> <mailto:david.anders at intel.com <mailto:
> david.anders at intel.com>>>:
> > > >
> > > > B-O,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, TinCanTools is pretty responsive for such things, so it was
> fixed pretty quickly after you reported it...
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of Berth-Olof
> Bergman
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:08 AM
> > > > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion <
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard MAX (or turbot)?
> > > >
> > > > That?s great!
> > > >
> > > > I reported this over 8 month ago, so it?s good to know someone took
> notice.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > >
> > > > B-O
> > > >
> > > >> 4 maj 2016 kl. 17:50 skrev Anders, David <david.anders at intel.com
> <mailto:david.anders at intel.com> <mailto:david.anders at intel.com <mailto:
> david.anders at intel.com>>>:
> > > >>
> > > >> B-O,
> > > >>
> > > >> Just FYI, that has been fixed in the newer revisions...
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >> Berth-Olof Bergman
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:50 AM
> > > >> To: gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>; MinnowBoard
> Development and Community
> > > >> Discussion <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard MAX (or turbot)?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gerard,
> > > >>
> > > >> In case you have problem with a second NIC in the PCI expansion bus
> using the silver jaw lure, the problem is the violation of PCI timing as
> the PLTRST# signal is not used to reset the NIC. They use the PWROK signal
> to reset the NIC and on a reboot the PWROK remains high. In the case of
> full reset from PCI reset register the PWROK gets initial low and then
> high, but violates the PCI bus reset protocol as the RESET# signal should
> remain low for at least 100 mS after power (PWROK) is stable.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> B-O
> > > >> Winzent Technologies
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 11:54 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Brian,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That is a really good question! :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We have a couple of PCB designs which one could consider as
> > > >>> MinnowBoard MAX "derivatives". On one of the designs (PCB) we have
> a
> > > >>> serious problem with reliable access to the Realtek 8111 NiC, even
> > > >>> though "on paper" (schematics,
> > > >>> etc) the two PCB's have the same NiC designs (so in one design
> > > >>> everything on the PCB works perfectly while on the other there
> seems
> > > >>> to be some PCI bus access issues to the NiC). We have tried
> different
> > > >>> drivers and other OS level debugging (mainly linux based) but can't
> > > >>> seem to isolate the problem (sometimes lspci will list the Realtek
> > > >>> NiC after a reboot and sometimes not and when it does get
> > > >>> detected/listed by lspci, the whole lspci entry is occasionally
> > > >>> corrupted and shows FF FF, etc). Obviously sounds/smells/looks
> like a
> > > >>> PCI bus problem (differential pair impedance, component
> differences,
> > > >>> PCB layout differences, etc..) but we can't seem to isolate it. So
> we
> > > >>> would like to do some "lower level" testing/checking of PCI
> > > >>> enumeration and maybe other PCI debugging tools. One of the tools
> we wanted to play with runs on MS-DOS.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> However, someone just pointed me at UEFI app:
> > > >>> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip> <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip>>
> > > >>> which should actually be able to run as an EFI app on our normal
> > > >>> minnow-derived firmware/BIOS. So need to check that out as well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you have any other ideas or pointers please let me know.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks & Regards
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gerard
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>> Richardson, Brian
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:45 PM
> > > >>> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > >>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard
> > > >>> MAX (or turbot)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What is the low-level debugging requirement? Does it need to be run
> > > >>> in DOS or just at a level below the OS?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks ... br
> > > >>> ---
> > > >>> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel
> Software
> > > >>> brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>
> <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>> --
> > > >>> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_> <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>> Gerard Bucas
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:43 PM
> > > >>> To: 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion'
> > > >>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>> Subject: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> MAX
> > > >>> (or turbot)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Resent with better subject line....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does anyone know how one could bot MS-DOS on a MBM/T?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Would like to do this for some low-level debugging we need to do.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I assume it needs a "legacy BIOS" but from what I read the winzent
> > > >>> legacy BIOS (which is due soon) is not yet available?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any help would be appreciated!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gerard
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:37:13 +0200
> > > From: Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>
> > > To: Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>>
> > > Cc: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> > > MAX (or turbot)?
> > > Message-ID: <9A8C9227-495F-4A49-845E-F9329A65DA8A at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:9A8C9227-495F-4A49-845E-F9329A65DA8A at tekmagic.net> <mailto:
> 9A8C9227-495F-4A49-845E-F9329A65DA8A at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> 9A8C9227-495F-4A49-845E-F9329A65DA8A at tekmagic.net>>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > Hi B-O
> > >
> > > Interesting...
> > >
> > > Which BIOS do you use to boot MSDOS?
> > >
> > > Curious....
> > >
> > > Gerard
> > >
> > > > On May 4, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Berth-Olof Bergman <
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gerard,
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know how you are doing with this and also the MSDOS
> boot.
> > > >
> > > > For your info, I use MSDOS a lot on Minnowboard Max/Turbot booting
> from SD card or USB thumb drive. It?s the best way to test the BIOS and the
> firmware.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > B-O
> > > >
> > > >> 4 maj 2016 kl. 17:25 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi B-O,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for this feedback/tip. Will make sure we check this out as
> well.
> > > >>
> > > >> Much appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >> Gerard
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Berth-Olof Bergman [mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 9:50 AM
> > > >> To: gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>; MinnowBoard
> Development and Community Discussion
> > > >> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard MAX
> > > >> (or turbot)?
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gerard,
> > > >>
> > > >> In case you have problem with a second NIC in the PCI expansion bus
> using
> > > >> the silver jaw lure, the problem is the violation of PCI timing as
> the
> > > >> PLTRST# signal is not used to reset the NIC. They use the PWROK
> signal to
> > > >> reset the NIC and on a reboot the PWROK remains high. In the case
> of full
> > > >> reset from PCI reset register the PWROK gets initial low and then
> high, but
> > > >> violates the PCI bus reset protocol as the RESET# signal should
> remain low
> > > >> for at least 100 mS after power (PWROK) is stable.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> B-O
> > > >> Winzent Technologies
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 11:54 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Brian,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That is a really good question! :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We have a couple of PCB designs which one could consider as
> > > >>> MinnowBoard MAX "derivatives". On one of the designs (PCB) we have
> a
> > > >>> serious problem with reliable access to the Realtek 8111 NiC, even
> > > >>> though "on paper" (schematics,
> > > >>> etc) the two PCB's have the same NiC designs (so in one design
> > > >>> everything on the PCB works perfectly while on the other there
> seems
> > > >>> to be some PCI bus access issues to the NiC). We have tried
> different
> > > >>> drivers and other OS level debugging (mainly linux based) but can't
> > > >>> seem to isolate the problem (sometimes lspci will list the Realtek
> NiC
> > > >>> after a reboot and sometimes not and when it does get
> detected/listed
> > > >>> by lspci, the whole lspci entry is occasionally corrupted and
> shows FF
> > > >>> FF, etc). Obviously sounds/smells/looks like a PCI bus problem
> > > >>> (differential pair impedance, component differences, PCB layout
> > > >>> differences, etc..) but we can't seem to isolate it. So we would
> like
> > > >>> to do some "lower level" testing/checking of PCI enumeration and
> maybe
> > > >>> other PCI debugging tools. One of the tools we wanted to play with
> runs on
> > > >> MS-DOS.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> However, someone just pointed me at UEFI app:
> > > >>> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip> <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip>>
> > > >>> which should actually be able to run as an EFI app on our normal
> > > >>> minnow-derived firmware/BIOS. So need to check that out as well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you have any other ideas or pointers please let me know.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks & Regards
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gerard
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>> Richardson, Brian
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:45 PM
> > > >>> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > >>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard
> > > >>> MAX (or turbot)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What is the low-level debugging requirement? Does it need to be
> run in
> > > >>> DOS or just at a level below the OS?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks ... br
> > > >>> ---
> > > >>> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel
> Software
> > > >>> brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>
> <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>> --
> > > >>> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_> <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>> Gerard Bucas
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:43 PM
> > > >>> To: 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion'
> > > >>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>> Subject: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> MAX
> > > >>> (or turbot)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Resent with better subject line....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does anyone know how one could bot MS-DOS on a MBM/T?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Would like to do this for some low-level debugging we need to do.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I assume it needs a "legacy BIOS" but from what I read the winzent
> > > >>> legacy BIOS (which is due soon) is not yet available?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any help would be appreciated!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gerard
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> elinux-MinnowBoard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-MinnowBoard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-MinnowBoard at lists.elinux.org>>
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> http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard <
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 19:08:57 +0200
> > > From: Berth-Olof Bergman <bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>>
> > > To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> > > MAX (or turbot)?
> > > Message-ID: <C389837C-2E68-459D-9227-7150069B4CA4 at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:C389837C-2E68-459D-9227-7150069B4CA4 at winzenttech.com> <mailto:
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> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Hi Gerard,
> > >
> > > I send our legacy BIOS for Max and Turbot to your email address at
> tekmagic.net <http://tekmagic.net/> <http://tekmagic.net/ <
> http://tekmagic.net/>> <http://tekmagic.net/ <http://tekmagic.net/> <
> http://tekmagic.net/ <http://tekmagic.net/>>>
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > B-O
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > 4 maj 2016 kl. 18:37 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >
> > > > Hi B-O
> > > >
> > > > Interesting...
> > > >
> > > > Which BIOS do you use to boot MSDOS?
> > > >
> > > > Curious....
> > > >
> > > > Gerard
> > > >
> > > >> On May 4, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Berth-Olof Bergman <
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:
> bo.bergman at winzenttech.com <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gerard,
> > > >>
> > > >> Please let me know how you are doing with this and also the MSDOS
> boot.
> > > >>
> > > >> For your info, I use MSDOS a lot on Minnowboard Max/Turbot booting
> from SD card or USB thumb drive. It?s the best way to test the BIOS and the
> firmware.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> B-O
> > > >>
> > > >>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 17:25 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi B-O,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for this feedback/tip. Will make sure we check this out as
> well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Much appreciated.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gerard
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: Berth-Olof Bergman [mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com
> <mailto:bo.bergman at winzenttech.com>>]
> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 9:50 AM
> > > >>> To: gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>; MinnowBoard
> Development and Community Discussion
> > > >>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard MAX
> > > >>> (or turbot)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Gerard,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In case you have problem with a second NIC in the PCI expansion
> bus using
> > > >>> the silver jaw lure, the problem is the violation of PCI timing as
> the
> > > >>> PLTRST# signal is not used to reset the NIC. They use the PWROK
> signal to
> > > >>> reset the NIC and on a reboot the PWROK remains high. In the case
> of full
> > > >>> reset from PCI reset register the PWROK gets initial low and then
> high, but
> > > >>> violates the PCI bus reset protocol as the RESET# signal should
> remain low
> > > >>> for at least 100 mS after power (PWROK) is stable.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> B-O
> > > >>> Winzent Technologies
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> 4 maj 2016 kl. 11:54 skrev Gerard Bucas <gerard.b at tekmagic.net
> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net> <mailto:gerard.b at tekmagic.net <mailto:
> gerard.b at tekmagic.net>>>:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi Brian,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> That is a really good question! :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We have a couple of PCB designs which one could consider as
> > > >>>> MinnowBoard MAX "derivatives". On one of the designs (PCB) we
> have a
> > > >>>> serious problem with reliable access to the Realtek 8111 NiC, even
> > > >>>> though "on paper" (schematics,
> > > >>>> etc) the two PCB's have the same NiC designs (so in one design
> > > >>>> everything on the PCB works perfectly while on the other there
> seems
> > > >>>> to be some PCI bus access issues to the NiC). We have tried
> different
> > > >>>> drivers and other OS level debugging (mainly linux based) but
> can't
> > > >>>> seem to isolate the problem (sometimes lspci will list the
> Realtek NiC
> > > >>>> after a reboot and sometimes not and when it does get
> detected/listed
> > > >>>> by lspci, the whole lspci entry is occasionally corrupted and
> shows FF
> > > >>>> FF, etc). Obviously sounds/smells/looks like a PCI bus problem
> > > >>>> (differential pair impedance, component differences, PCB layout
> > > >>>> differences, etc..) but we can't seem to isolate it. So we would
> like
> > > >>>> to do some "lower level" testing/checking of PCI enumeration and
> maybe
> > > >>>> other PCI debugging tools. One of the tools we wanted to play
> with runs on
> > > >>> MS-DOS.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> However, someone just pointed me at UEFI app:
> > > >>>> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip> <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip <
> https://github.com/JamesAmiTw/ru-uefi/raw/master/5.17.0284.zip>>
> > > >>>> which should actually be able to run as an EFI app on our normal
> > > >>>> minnow-derived firmware/BIOS. So need to check that out as well.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you have any other ideas or pointers please let me know.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks & Regards
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Gerard
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>>> Richardson, Brian
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:45 PM
> > > >>>> To: MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion
> > > >>>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a
> MinnowBoard
> > > >>>> MAX (or turbot)?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What is the low-level debugging requirement? Does it need to be
> run in
> > > >>>> DOS or just at a level below the OS?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks ... br
> > > >>>> ---
> > > >>>> Brian Richardson, Senior Technical Marketing Engineer, Intel
> Software
> > > >>>> brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>
> <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com <mailto:brian.richardson at intel.com>> --
> > > >>>> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_> <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_ <
> http://evangelists.intel.com/bio/Brian_Richardson_>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: elinux-MinnowBoard
> > > >>>> [mailto:elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard-bounces at lists.elinux.org>>] On Behalf Of
> > > >>>> Gerard Bucas
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:43 PM
> > > >>>> To: 'MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion'
> > > >>>> <elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org> <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org <mailto:
> elinux-minnowboard at lists.elinux.org>>>
> > > >>>> Subject: [MinnowBoard] : How does one run MS-DOS on a MinnowBoard
> MAX
> > > >>>> (or turbot)?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Resent with better subject line....
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Does anyone know how one could bot MS-DOS on a MBM/T?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Would like to do this for some low-level debugging we need to do.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I assume it needs a "legacy BIOS" but from what I read the winzent
> > > >>>> legacy BIOS (which is due soon) is not yet available?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any help would be appreciated!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regards
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Gerard
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>> elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list
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